Starter Marriage, Phase 4

[tods1976]

I wish I could help more. I only got that route at the very beginning, in a save file that wasn’t reset for some reason. So it may have been incomplete.

I do recall that focusing on Renee’s breasts in conversation at the coffee shop helped as she is basically the Dr Laurel trope it seems like. And that it was blue dress (standing) Emma, and she agreed to a date and surprised me with having asked Allison about our “arrangement” (I usually get her to agree to coffee by offering to invite Allison rather than claiming an arrangement). Also, Lorelei didn’t ask me to come to her place that day.  I believe Allison fell into a trance at breakfast.

[Bob42]

Can anyone confirm that it is possible to interact with Emma back at the office after getting Renee's hypnotist business card?  I saw someone else referring to that but haven't managed to make it happen.

I got to a point where you interact with both Emma (BSD shirt) and Renee in the coffee house and are definitely being MC'd by Renee (getting hard in response to texts, sparkling eyes, she picks how the restroom scene ends, sudden urge to disclose Allison's "special thing", etc)  If I piss Emma off, I get the message from HR but no card.  If I don't piss Emma off, I find the card in a pocket but don't get the chance to interact with Emma.  I think I tried all the variations starting at the point of getting to the office.

[Daphne]

Can anyone confirm that it is possible to interact with Emma back at the office after getting Renee's hypnotist business card?

Yes.

[Bob42]

Can anyone confirm that it is possible to interact with Emma back at the office after getting Renee's hypnotist business card?

Yes.

Thank you!

... and curse you, now I "have" to go try other close variations. 

[Icarus]

Can anyone confirm that it is possible to interact with Emma back at the office after getting Renee's hypnotist business card?  I saw someone else referring to that but haven't managed to make it happen.

I got to a point where you interact with both Emma (BSD shirt) and Renee in the coffee house and are definitely being MC'd by Renee (getting hard in response to texts, sparkling eyes, she picks how the restroom scene ends, sudden urge to disclose Allison's "special thing", etc)  If I piss Emma off, I get the message from HR but no card.  If I don't piss Emma off, I find the card in a pocket but don't get the chance to interact with Emma.  I think I tried all the variations starting at the point of getting to the office.

Having the same issue, oh so close but still haven’t gotten the opportunity to use the card on Emma.

[tods1976]

How do I get to the scenario where I can just command people using the ring?  I haven’t seen anything like that but have heard of it.

[Ch1mmy]

How do I get to the scenario where I can just command people using the ring?  I haven’t seen anything like that but have heard of it.

If this is a thing I would also love to know.

[ktc1221]

Just curious what everyone's favorite paths are so far. While It's amusing and entertaining for me to see/experience Bimbolei, I am not personally interested in sharing with Dante much. Besides perhaps Lorelei continuing to domme him (this is revealed within some mind control of Renee). Due to this lack of interest in Dante (hot wifing/poly relations with men just simply doesn't interest me) so far my personal favorite path has mostly lead to me ignoring just about everyone but Allison and then expressing interest in our ex Paula. For 2 fairly obvious reasons, Boon boobs are on my wishlist. I've found expressing love to Annie but ultimately not going out to see her as my preferred route, simply because it seems to be how you can avoid getting a bj from Renee, and thus involving yourself with them beyond a platonic manner, while still allowing for a boon from Lorelei. This also makes it so I don't physically cheat on Allison, again something I like to head cannon. Is this route a "good boyfriend" route of sorts? I suppose so, but you still perform some MC on Allison this way and are manipulative and controlling of her, so hardly a "saint".

Interestingly enough, avoiding any MC on Allison seems to inevitably cause her to instead be MC'd by either Dante, Renee, Lorelei, or some combination of that trio, and leads to involving yourself in the Dante and Renee party. I have tried several times to effectively just have sex with Allison like a normal couple and it seems to always lead to a BJ from Renee. The story has so many permutations, I'm mostly curious if anyone's figured out if Allison can be not mind controlled at all or not. Do you just have to ice her on the first night? Feels mean is all, even for a porn game.

[hereno]

How do I get to the scenario where I can just command people using the ring?  I haven’t seen anything like that but have heard of it.

If this is a thing I would also love to know.

Pretty sure the boon path I listed in the other thread does this!

[tods1976]

Thanks!

[ktc1221]

I stumbled into hypnotizing Lorelei... despite not actively trying to do that today. Outside of holding onto the ring because I was curious. Ive been playing it a lot lately, and I feel I've "formulated" 2 paths, mostly related to who is doing the hypnosis and how.

Hereno has already laid this out for folks in more detail, but I just wanted to share my own experiences.

1. I'm the hypnotist - varying degrees of selfishness. You can pretty much garuntee a slave/hypnotized Allison if you pick all the sexy times in ch1 and then do her special thing. Personally, I wish you could choose to do all these things and then not command her to do anything simply because I like reading about my female partner having pleasureable sex, but that's just me. Perhaps a very controlling hypnotism ala "You will only orgasm with me". That sounds hot af and pretty top/dom energy at least. Addicted to sex , with me, etc. This route seems to encourage Allisons libido to be really high and if you do this at the start you are locked out of Loreleis boon routes, as far as I can tell.

2. Lorelei is the hypnotist - this is my personal favorite route. From as best as I can tell, this route is effectively that Lorelei is hypnotizing Allison to be your ideal women, and will even bring that up with you in conversation day 3. You can do this path without having Allison interested/involved in poly or interested, but the best version of this partiuclar route at least to me is Loreleis boon.  This does require you to have picked up the ring in Dante/Renees apartment.

[hereno]

Perhaps a very controlling hypnotism ala "You will only orgasm with me". That sounds hot af and pretty top/dom energy at least. Addicted to sex , with me, etc.

A lot of runs will have Allison and/or Lorelei talk about getting addicted to sex with you. There are even runs where it seems like your cum has a direct orgasmic effect (and possibly a boob-growing effect).

[ktc1221]

A lot of runs will have Allison and/or Lorelei talk about getting addicted to sex with you. There are even runs where it seems like your cum has a direct orgasmic effect (and possibly a boob-growing effect).

I have noticed the addictive /orgasmic cum. Seems to be in line with high sex/libido runs though not always.

Everytime I think "oh this always results in Boon Lorelei" I get shown that's not the case. It's incredible to me how nuanced it is. I should probably actually chart out each route... but its such a monumental feat and I'm usually on my phone so I'm too lazy to bother.

[ktc1221]

I got a sequence where you actively tell Allison to be your sex-slave... and it's easily one of my favorite drawings of her. I hadn't seen it until this morning. She is just delightfully busty already and it's a thin white lingerie like night gown. Just so hot. This seems to be linked to the addictive cum path. Uncertain. Either way, it's quite exciting. Doesnt seem to link to a boon route. Ive yet to really establish how that works, though I do think it has something to do with which MC you choose, and choose to do. If you "do her special thing" with Allison I haven't found a boon route off that. Pondering and waiting excitedly for the evening with Allison.

[Icarus]

Well apparently the trick to getting Renee's card and using it on Emma is to not try and get that ending 

Finally got that to work and led to what can only be described as a Renee total domination ending. Was just trying to do a normal collar/hypno run and wasn't really paying attention to the choices I was making. Have not been able to reproduce it but it seems you at least need to be able to hypnotize Emma in the cafe (but not actually do it) which i believed to be confirmed as an already narrow path. So it's a narrow path on a narrow path.