The Flow of Starter Marriage

[Flintnsteal]

I just realized, the "she was always so hot for you" picture isnt Paula, its Renee, I'd been assuming its Paula, but the room is the same room that Renee sends you a picture from if you use the boon on her.

Wow. Great catch. I totally thought that was Paula too.

Circling way back to this: I just realized that the old pic of Paula you have on your phone in Ch. 5 is also in this room. Very mysterious. So maybe "She was always so hot for you" really is Paula. Bigger question is: why does Booned Renee send a pic of this room... and is that Renee or Paula kneeling and collared in that pic? Hm...

EDIT: Ah, the booned pic is captioned that Renee "sent a pic of herself," hm...

Oh that's very interesting, I'd have assumed we'd have been made aware of something like Paula being related to Renee, but maybe she's a client of Renee's? Or they know each other like as roommates in the past? Actually, speaking of, do we have any idea when our marriage to Annie was in relation to life events such as college/university?

[hereno]

Oh that's very interesting, I'd have assumed we'd have been made aware of something like Paula being related to Renee

You saw Paula at the end of Ch. 3 right near Dante and Renee's place! I very much assume Dante and/or Renee "stole" Paula from you back in the day (and wiped your memory of it).

Generally, there are a bunch of hints that "something keeps happening to your girlfriends," so I presume someone (or several someones) think you have great taste. Whoever it is has had their eye on you for a while...

[Underworld]

Has anyone got a path were they have been able to go to the party and hypnotize Lorelei - specifically were you get a scene with her kneeling when you 'prepare her for the party' - i have managed it once on a run where Annie is going and i am not (which i have not been able to repeat as it was prior to the path function) but i have never managed it while we are both going.

[Toby Dammit]

some interesting permutations in the "checking your texts" at the start of the second chapter.

The time with Natalia will have an additional "she even sucked you off after" or "she even let you do her in the ass, no extra charge" or "Annie tipped her an extra $50, 'for my boobjob fund'" depending on how well your induction takes and which of them are stronger. tho i couldn't find anything for the tradwife command in that memory.

in the strip club the amount of money annie makes on the floor seems to be related to libido at least somewhat. "now is not the time" gives you a base of 330, "sneak a peak" gets you 320, and "something tells you" is 340. and that mount increments by $1 every time you extend the first sex scene (if i'm correct)

you also get a new description of the girl on stage when you enter: a blonde with big tits (boob route), a skinny redhead (no MC, bj, tradwife), a cute punkish girl with a really nice ass (butt route)

i didn't see any variance in the guy in the bathroom or the shower options afaik

[hereno]

Really nice find

[Flintnsteal]

With the release of 4.1.13, has anyone noticed what the hinted at new material is when talking with Renee? I pulled up my save slot from right as her coffee date starts and didn't notice anything new.

[BenHur Over]

With the release of 4.1.13, has anyone noticed what the hinted at new material is when talking with Renee? I pulled up my save slot from right as her coffee date starts and didn't notice anything new.

After 3 runs, I've only encountered new dialogues with Renee in the first run. It seems the new dialogues don't always appear and may depend on the run (I'm unsure if this's intended). They're really hot (or alarming) and reveal how objectified Alison is and how submissive she is to Dante.

I haven't found any new interactions with Alison during dinner, whether she's in normal clothes or the tight purple suit. It seems only Maid Alison has the new dialogues.

[Ch1mmy]

what exactly was the new dialogue? I cant seem to get it.

[BenHur Over]

what exactly was the new dialogue? I cant seem to get it.

The easiest way is: In the Spell path, be as dishonest as possible, maximize Allison's brainwashing, enchant Renee during coffee, ask what happened between Allison and Dante, and new dialogue will likely appear.

I haven't tried Hypnosis and Brainwashing Path yet.

[Ch1mmy]

Did you find a certain path like maid or breast expansion only or is it anything. And Did you deny annie or accept going to her. Cause I am doing my normal run of the spell path and havent seen the new text.

[BenHur Over]

Did you find a certain path like maid or breast expansion only or is it anything. And Did you deny annie or accept going to her. Cause I am doing my normal run of the spell path and havent seen the new text.

This's 1 of the paths that got me the new dialogue:
⇝ Now is not the time. 
⇝ Speed up, fucking her harder. 
⇝ Keep going, but slow down and delay your orgasm. 
⇝ This is perfect, just the right speed... keep going. 
⇝ Speed up; you can feel how much she wants it. 
⇝ Stop... it's time for that thing she loves. 
⇝ "You will cook and serve dinner naked tomorrow." 
⇝ "Speaking of swallowing..." 
⇝ "I should deal with that text." 
⇝ "Nothing important. Now, we both have big days tomorrow." 
⇝ The next morning you are awoken by a pleasant surprise.

Memory Lane  ⇝ You have something to check out on your phone. 
⇝ You find one that reminds you of wait. You hear familiar noises from the shower. 
⇝ You wander off to set out breakfast. 
⇝ So, you head off to work. 
⇝ Yeah, kinda still pissed. What's up? 
⇝ The guy you left me for? 
⇝ It's OK. What do you need? 
⇝ Let me think about it. 
⇝ Then you get to work; it's better to talk with Allison about this in person. 
⇝ Time for other activities. The situation with Annie can wait. 
⇝ ... cuddle up to Allison for the night. 
⇝ The next morning you wake up alone.

The Butterfly Effect  ⇝ You check your phone. 
⇝ I still love you, but I don't know if I can. 
⇝ I'm not trying to hurt you. 
⇝ I can't risk my relationship. 
⇝ We haven't talked about it. 
⇝ I'm not sure how'd she react to us having sex. 
⇝ If I'm going to risk it, I need an explicit commitment. 
⇝ Really? 
⇝ I'll come. And I will hold you to that. 
⇝ And then you call Allison. 
⇝ ... head off to work. 
⇝ "Avoiding some heavy life stuff." 
⇝ "Things are just a little rough at home." 
⇝ "I think Allison's cheating on me." 
⇝ And then you get back to work. 
⇝ And then you work until it's time to head home. 
⇝ You present her with the voucher from this morning. 
⇝ You get ready to leave for dinner. 
⇝ You knock. 
⇝ "Excuse me for a moment." You duck to the bathroom. 
⇝ So, you follow Renée into the kitchen, having taken the ring. 
⇝ "Yeah. Just for the weekend, I hope." 
⇝ "Really, I'm just hoping to fuck her." 
⇝ "She's more than just accepting." 
⇝ "I think that would be wise. Scientific curiosity." 
⇝ "Drop." 
⇝ You follow her back to the living room. 
⇝ You bring up your trip. 
⇝ As the evening winds down, you say your goodbyes. 
⇝ You decide not to mention it.

The Girlfriend Experience  ⇝ "Yes. But only if I get pics." 
⇝ "No! What makes you think that?" 
⇝ "You've been delightfully sexual lately!" 
⇝ You ask, "Then, how about a roadside blowjob?" 
⇝ You finish the drive home. 
⇝ Ignore it. 
⇝ "Your mouth first, slave." 
⇝ You have no choice but to let her bring you off. 
⇝ "I have something I want to do to you." 
⇝ "Let's talk about you being my maid." 
⇝ "You'd love to be my maid more often." 
⇝ "We're going to fuck now." 
⇝ Then say, "I want to come on your face." 
⇝ ... hand her a towel. 
⇝ And then you dream. 
⇝ And then your dream continues. 
⇝ And then during the night...

Relationship Goals  ⇝ The next morning at breakfast... 
⇝ "I only have time for a blowjob, slave." 
⇝ You come in her mouth. 
⇝ You hand her a napkin. 
⇝ ... stand and collect your dishes from the table. 
⇝ You head to work. 
⇝ You text Renée back. 
⇝ And then you slip the ring on. 
⇝ ... hear a familiar voice behind you. 
⇝ You work until work until it's time for coffee with Emma. 
⇝ "Her new guy dumped her." 
⇝ "Nothing really. Is that project still stressing you out?" 
⇝ And then you see Renée walk into the coffee house. 
⇝ "Your new breasts look amazing." 
⇝ "You will blow me in the restroom here." 
⇝ "What happened between Allison and Dante while we were in the kitchen last night?" 

[Ch1mmy]

i now see what you meant by either hot or concerning. Another thing to see where it goes when it comes to the story.

[BenHur Over]

It seems like, due to the nature of this game, the choices you make AFTER dinner with Renee and Dante also affect what Allison says to Dante. I've only found 3 variations of this conversation so far.

[Ch1mmy]

Does anyone know how to get allison to act like a bimbo. I am doing the breast expansion route and just get it where she acts normal except having big breasts.

[BenHur Over]

Does anyone know how to get allison to act like a bimbo. I am doing the breast expansion route and just get it where she acts normal except having big breasts.

Bimbo - Spell - Keep The Ring in the end:

⇝ Now is not the time.
⇝ Speed up, fucking her harder.
⇝ Keep going, but slow down and delay your orgasm.
⇝ This is perfect, just the right speed... keep going.
⇝ Speed up; you can feel how much she wants it.
⇝ Stop... it's time for that thing she loves.
⇝ "You will get your breasts enlarged."
⇝ "Then I suppose a blowjob is out of the question?"
⇝ "I should deal with that text."
⇝ "Nothing important. Now, we both have big days tomorrow."
⇝ The next morning you are awoken by a pleasant surprise.
⇝ You have something to check out on your phone.
⇝ You find one that reminds you of wait. You hear familiar noises from the shower.
⇝ You wander off to set out breakfast.
⇝ So, you head off to work.
⇝ Yeah, kinda still pissed. What's up?
⇝ The guy you left me for?
⇝ It's OK. What do you need?
⇝ Let me think about it.
⇝ Then you get to work; it's better to talk with Allison about this in person.
⇝ Time for other activities. The situation with Annie can wait.
⇝ ... cuddle up to Allison for the night.
⇝ The next morning you wake up alone.
⇝ You check your phone.
⇝ I still love you, but I don't know if I can.
⇝ Make it up how?
⇝ I have a girlfriend. I don't want to hurt her.
⇝ I've told her I'm not going.
⇝ Is us being lovers again really on offer here?
⇝ If I'm going to risk it, I need an explicit commitment.
⇝ Really?
⇝ I'll come. And I will hold you to that.
⇝ And then you text your "friend".
⇝ It's been a while since we've...
⇝ Yes. Just want to spend an afternoon with you.
⇝ Perfect. See you then.
⇝ And then you call Allison.
⇝ ... head off to work.
⇝ "Wanted to remind them I work here. What are you up to?"
⇝ "She's doing great! How's... I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name."
⇝ "We should grab coffee sometime. Away from work."
⇝ "No reason to complicate things."
⇝ And then you get back to work.
⇝ And then you work until it's time for your date with your "friend".
⇝ You bring up telling Allison about your affair.
⇝ "Things have changed with Allison."
⇝ "I have this feeling she's cheating on me."
⇝ "She's almost pushing me between Annie's legs."
⇝ "Very much! I'd hate to think of her with another man."
⇝ "Then my problem would be that she's not sharing."
⇝ "I would like to focus on the woman in front of me. Shall we...?"
⇝ And then you wait for her summons.
⇝ You slide onto the bed and go down on her.
⇝ You start fingering her.
⇝ You ask her to go down on you.
⇝ And then you take her.
⇝ And then you you slowly pull out.
⇝ And then you head home.
⇝ You present her with the voucher from this morning.
⇝ You get ready to leave for dinner.
⇝ You knock.
⇝ "Excuse me for a moment." You duck to the bathroom.
⇝ So, you follow Renée into the kitchen, having taken the ring.
⇝ "How did you know about that?"
⇝ "Really, I'm just hoping to fuck her."
⇝ "She's more than just accepting."
⇝ "I think that would be wise. Scientific curiosity."
⇝ "Drop."
⇝ You follow her back to the living room.
⇝ You return to the subject of Renée's boobs.
⇝ As the evening winds down, you say your goodbyes.
⇝ You decide not to mention it.
⇝ "I'm not comfortable with that."
⇝ "Yes. Do you want the details?"
⇝ "You can blow me while I give you the details."
⇝ You ask, "Then, how about a roadside blowjob?"
⇝ You finish the drive home.
⇝ Excuse yourself to the bathroom.
⇝ ... join Allison in the bedroom.
⇝ "Your mouth first, slave."
⇝ You have no choice but to let her bring you off.
⇝ "I have something I want to do to you."
⇝ "Tell me what you're thinking about right now."
⇝ "Tell me."
⇝ "Who is he?"
⇝ "Then what does he do?"
⇝ "What kind of things?"
⇝ "And then?"
⇝ "What does he do to you then?"
⇝ "And what?"
⇝ "Why is he doing this to you?"
⇝ "You will let me come on you."
⇝ You come on her tits.
⇝ ... hand her a towel.
⇝ And then you dream.
⇝ And then your dream continues.
⇝ And then your dream continues.
⇝ And then your dream continues.
⇝ And then during the night...
⇝ The next morning at breakfast...
⇝ "I don't think I have the time to do you properly."
⇝ "What would you like to do this evening?"
⇝ say, "On the table, slave."
⇝ You come inside her.
⇝ You head to work.
⇝ You text Renée back.
⇝ And then you slip the ring on.
⇝ ... hear a familiar voice behind you.
⇝ You work until work until it's time for coffee with Emma.
⇝ "Next week? I should be back from Annie on Monday."
⇝ "Does the 'no pass' rule apply to Allison, too?"
⇝ "You will have a three-way with Allison and me."
⇝ "That sounds great!"
⇝ And then you see Renée walk into the coffee house.
⇝ "Your new breasts look amazing."
⇝ "You will blow me in the restroom here."
⇝ "What happened between Allison and Dante while we were in the kitchen last night?"
⇝ "I'd love to get together once I'm back from Annie."
⇝ "So, there's something I'd like to do."
⇝ You then let her into the restroom first, and then slip in.
⇝ And then you come on her face.
⇝ And then you update Allison.
⇝ Hang out until it is time to visit Lorelei.
⇝ So you come in, giving her a hug.
⇝ You say, "I don't remember seeing anything like that there."
⇝ You say, gently, "Everything's going to be OK."
⇝ You focus on her and say, "Now, Lorelei, you will do as I say."
⇝ "Blow me. Kneel down."
⇝ "I want to come in your mouth."
⇝ Then you move on to your next experiment.
⇝ First, you try to implant the idea that the sex was a mutual decision.
⇝ You decide to change her views on things you did today.
⇝ "You love to comply with my desires."
⇝ "Nothing but my comamnds and desires."
⇝ "You can't think or say no, you just comply."
⇝ "You are my obedient cocksucking fucktoy."
⇝ ... leave, locking the door behind you, and head back to work.
⇝ You work until it's time to head home.
⇝ You go in.
⇝ You do so.
⇝ "To be sure, you'll need to blow me wearing those."
⇝ Then you help her up, and go to the kitchen.
⇝ Clean-up complete, you instruct her to retire to the bedroom.