The Flow of Starter Marriage

[hereno]

Throughout the story, there are a number of options regarding how you "finish" after a blow job.

Facial
Tits
Body
Mouth

This is one of my active investigations now. Too early to be definitive, but I can confirm these have impacts on the story.

Tits do, indeed, focus the story on tits, whether through making Allison more interested in surgery, or seemingly by making them grow via magic.

Facial seems to move women in a "cumslut" direction.

Mouth I'm less clear on; maybe just increases their libido?

Body I think (maybe) is identical to just cumming inside them, which I think (maybe) is either the neutral option or pushes your character's priorities towards control over sex.

[twobears]

thanks!  (for this and everything else that you're doing)

[lampone]

I read in one of the posts that it is possible to get blue shirt Emma to report you to HR (usually that's a white shirt Emma thing only). I wanted to check that path to see if there's anything different in the scenes where you hypnotize her at work afterwards. Any idea how to get that?

[Ch1mmy]

is anyone else not able to get the collar run to work anymore? Since the 4.0.17 update doing the same old run for the collar isnt giving me the outcome that it should. Theres no bliss or blank trance for allison and cant seem to get any kind of good coffee run anymore.

[Flintnsteal]

is anyone else not able to get the collar run to work anymore? Since the 4.0.17 update doing the same old run for the collar isnt giving me the outcome that it should. Theres no bliss or blank trance for allison and cant seem to get any kind of good coffee run anymore.

I'm noticing the collar runs I had running last time not working now, but dunno if that is a case of those were not supposed to be working, or a new issue.

[Flintnsteal]

So, confirmed that things are working as intended, if anyone has a collar route where Allison is going to the party, and you get to hypnotize both Renee and Emma in the coffee shop, please let me know, as I'm struggling to pull it off

[Haight]

Here is a run that should get you to MC Emma in the office in 4.0.3. (As a heads up: I won't do a run printout like this for every single request. I'm writing out a few today to help you guys explore some of the other content.)

Now is not the time.
Stop... you have something special to do to her.
"You will cook and serve dinner naked tomorrow."
You gently tease her legs apart to continue fucking her.
"I should deal with that text."
"Nothing important. Now, we both have big days tomorrow."
The next morning you decide to sleep in.
   
You find one that reminds you of that time with Natalia.
OK time for breakfast.
See what you can find on the Internet.
Then you head off to work.
Yeah, kinda still pissed. What's up?
The guy you left me for?
So, why get in touch now?
Let me think about it.
Then you get to work; it's better to talk with Allison about this in person.
Time for other activities. The situation with Annie can wait.
... cuddle up to Allison for the night.
The next morning you wake up alone.

You check your phone.
I still can't believe you're asking after what you did.
I'm listening.
And what kind of apology did you have in mind?
It sounds like you want help with more than paperwork.
If I'm going to risk it, I need an explicit commitment.
I can't turn that down. I'll come.
You reply call Allison.
... head off to work.
"Wanted to remind them I work here. What are you up to?"
"She's doing great! How's... I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name."
"We should grab coffee sometime. Away from work."
"No reason to complicate things."
You say get back to work.
And then you work until it's time to head home.
You help her up, and head to dinner.
You knock.
"Excuse me for a moment." You duck to the bathroom.
So, you follow Renée to the kitchen.
"How did you know about that?"
"I can't believe I'm doing it, myself."
"She's fine with me fucking Annie."
"How can I say no to that?"
You follow her back to the living room.
You ask what the conversation you walked into was.
As the evening winds down, you say your goodbyes.
You turn to point her out to Allison.
   
You head to the car.
"No! What makes you think that?"
"Is everything OK? You've been acting different lately."
say, "Well, then, roadside blowjob?"
You finish the drive home.
Excuse yourself to the bathroom.
... join Allison in the bedroom.
"I have something I want to do to you."
"Let's talk about you being my maid."
"You'd love to be my maid more often."
"We're going to fuck now."
Then say, "I want to come on your face."
... hand her a towel.
And then you dream.
And then your dream continues.
And then your dream continues.
And then your dream continues.
And then then during the night...
   
The next morning at breakfast...
"What do you think I'm doing to you?"
"You've been really stressed lately. You just needed a change."
"I can tell this is scary for you. Deep breaths. Relax."
"Just focus on how good it felt. Don't think about anything else."
"Then don't think. Just breath and relax."
"That's very good. Nothing but your cunt."
say, "Climb up onto the table." You pat it as you stand.
You come inside her.
... stand and collect your dishes from the table.
You head to work.
You text Annie back.
I'm not going to get you in trouble with your ex, am I?
What kind of trouble are you in?
I'll be happy to help, but you have to put out.
You text Renée back.
And then you text Allison back.
And then you hear a familiar voice behind you.
You work until work until it's time for coffee with Emma.
"I'm really not sure. Hey, do you want to do dinner sometime?
And then you wait for Renée.
"Kind of a problem with a coworker."
"I'm sorry we're missing the party."
"I'm glad you and Lorelei stayed in touch."
"So, how's work?" You realize you have no idea what she does.
"So, anything else new in your world?"
"What happened between Allison and Dante while we were in the kitchen last night?"
So you bring her out of the trance.
... update Allison.
Hang out until it is time to visit Lorelei.
So you come in, giving her a kiss on the lips.
"By the way, Renée blew me last night."
"May I entice you to bed? It's been a while."
Then you await her summons.
"Start with your mouth, perhaps?"
You undress, and climb onto the bed.
"Would you like to be on top?"
You say, "From behind?"
You say, "On your back?"
You say, "May I come on you?"
You lie down next to her.
You take your leave, and head back to work.
You work until you hear Emma come back to her cube.
"My voice is the only thing that matters."
"You are feeling so helpless and receptive."
"You need me to tell you what to do."
"You have no will. My voice controls you completely."
"You'll tell HR it was just a misunderstanding, all settled now."
"In exactly ten minutes, you'll meet me in the supply room and give me a blowjob."
"You will awaken when I leave." You head to the supply room to wait.
"Just do what I tell you."
So you come in her mouth.
... get back to work.
You work until it's time to head home.

Any tips on how to do this in the current version?

[twobears]

I stumbled onto a "tradwife" path for the first time in which Alison is being conditioned to care very much about clothes, makeup, and the like.  I think that these might be a deviation from some of the maid runs.

I can't recall how to get back to this.
Any suggestions?

[hereno]

I stumbled onto a "tradwife" path for the first time in which Alison is being conditioned to care very much about clothes, makeup, and the like.  I think that these might be a deviation from some of the maid runs.

I can't recall how to get back to this.
Any suggestions?

First, you need to MC Allison at the start of the game to "cook and serve dinner." Then, when you MC Allison in Ch. 4, pick "Let's talk about you being my maid." This has four 'steps,' and the tradwife text is at the fourth step.

This is a bit unintuitive: the higher your MC interest/ability, the sooner these steps end. So if you want to see the tradwife text, you need to have lower MC interest/ability.

[twobears]

thanks.  guessing my ability was too high.

Time to experiment

[twobears]

So, other than the completely obvious, what sorts of things indicate an interesting in Mind Control?

Examples of completely obvious would seem to include:

1.  Doing that "special thing" to Alison
2.  Saying that you are hypnotizing her or enchanting her or some such

Do dominant actions imply MC?
Do blowjobs imply MC other than simply effecting libido?

I think that I understand how to infer that stuff is going on based on pictures and text, but not sure else to be looking for

[hereno]

I mean, I wish I understood this better, too. But for example, Lorelei can ask if you're doing MC the first time you see her, and you can say yes or no; or you can tell Renee the first time you see her that you've MC'd Allison to accept you fucking Annie. That sort of thing demonstrates interest.

[hereno]

I mean, I wish I understood this better, too. But for example, Lorelei can ask if you're doing MC the first time you see her, and you can say yes or no; or you can tell Renee the first time you see her that you've MC'd Allison to accept you fucking Annie. That sort of thing demonstrates interest.

Also: lying or being evasive tends to push you in a controller direction. De-prioritizing sex I think pushes you that way. The roadside blowjob in Ch. 4 pushes you that way.

[Flintnsteal]

Also: lying or being evasive tends to push you in a controller direction. De-prioritizing sex I think pushes you that way. The roadside blowjob in Ch. 4 pushes you that way.

This is the kind of thing that like, genuinely fucks me up with CYOA stuff, for me? I would never have assumed that being deceitful makes me more a controller, because for me the two are completely unrelated. And so I'm sure that it means that my testing is inherently flawed cause I just don't think those decisions matter.

[Haight]

This is the kind of thing that like, genuinely fucks me up with CYOA stuff, for me? I would never have assumed that being deceitful makes me more a controller, because for me the two are completely unrelated. And so I'm sure that it means that my testing is inherently flawed cause I just don't think those decisions matter.

Yeah, that's part of the issue, and why I'd really like to hear more commentary about what those choices mean from the writer. A lot of the choices are very obfuscated.