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Question: How important is the MC process vs the outcomes to you?  (Voting closed: March 20, 2021, 10:31:18 am)
Process is literally all I am here for. - 0 (0%)
Process, with some outcome to seal the deal. - 17 (44.7%)
Really, why choose? - 15 (39.5%)
Mostly outcomes; process is a nice introduction. - 6 (15.8%)
All outcome, all the time. - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 38

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« on: March 13, 2021, 10:31:18 am »

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2021, 03:21:04 pm »

I voted for the middle option, but in my experience, process gets a lot more love in MC erotica than outcome. I've said this before, but I really like seeing non-sex outcomes, too, but those get very little attention.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2021, 10:16:52 am »

I also went with "Really, why choose?"... I was going to select the "mostly process" option, but really what I'm here for is control. Establishing it and then displaying it are both important. I feel like outcomes are often heavy on the "boom! controlled, so sex". Not terrible at all, but as Hereno wrote, the outcome doesn't have to be sex. It just has to be control to be hot. If it's sex that shows the control well, though, that's super-hot.

That said, I'm heavily into serial recruitment as well... because that's another great way of exhibiting the control. Process is a bit more important there, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2021, 08:01:41 pm »

I'm both Love Process How get the control and love what turn into. it all
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2021, 05:47:38 am »

I really enjoy the token resistance and regret as her mind is drained away and replaced with her masters will.

But it isn't porn without graphic sex.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2021, 12:53:24 am »

Put down middle but honestly more flexible. Process can be super hot but if done to death it can come off fairly perfunctory. More often it is the outcome that comes off that way. Caring about the outcome is important. Sometimes that means mostly process. Other times it can be done mostly with outcome. Most stories are good on this. The novelty of the process is probably what is mostly important. If it is just repeated over and over with interchangeable people it loses bite. Outcome differences can help spice that up a bit (Audiophilia was mostly fun due to the varied outcomes, this was also what got my interest about Take Out).
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2021, 12:40:55 pm »

The best Mind Control stories combine good process with good outcomes.
The majority (if not all) of the Mind Control that was on TV resulted in bad outcomes. The hypnotist/Mind Controller always lost in the end.
One of the highlights of your forum is they win (and win big).
But another aspect that enhances the story is the set up.
Developing the characters before the process; during the process, and the outcome after the process makes the best stories.
Thanks for allowing me to share my opinion.
With that said, when can we expect the next episode of "Bigger"?
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2021, 05:41:10 pm »

Not sure where Beyond rubies and Vector fall on this scale. Both are perfect, wherever they lie.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2021, 08:59:10 am »

Process, but what is process without an outcome?
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2021, 04:41:40 pm »

Process, but what is process without an outcome?
    "Little do ye know your own blessedness; for to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive, and the true success is to labour."
Robert Louis Stevenson, from Virginibus Puerisque, 1881:

but I most admit that personally
     "I love it when a plan comes together"
John "Hannibal" Smith, played by George Peppard, in the TV show The A-Team (1983-87).

so I'll go for 70% process, 30% outcome
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2021, 08:53:57 pm »

Outcome without process is just sex. Process even without outcome can still be hot - just look at all those 80s cartoons that had mc content.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2021, 11:02:34 am »

Gotta show before, during, and after to get the whole fun of mental or physical TF.

SJI skips the process itself sometimes, which I find frustrating.

But when the controlee isn't aware they're controlled, and has no reaction to it, there's not really an "outcome." Real objectifying tf/mc isn't hot for me for that reason; if there's no mind left, not much of an outcome.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2021, 03:02:07 pm »

Kind of both? I loved the hybrid beyond rubies had where women who're fully outcome would pursue other women and put them into process. Seeing both all mixed up was fantastic. Guess it's yet more prove the the hegelian dialectic is the shit. More hegelian porn please.
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