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Author Topic: Starter Marriage, Phase 4  (Read 3618 times)
Daphne
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« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2025, 12:39:10 pm »

Generally: she's most receptive if you go through all the "speed" options (you have a long sex session) and you don't stop to look at your phone.

This is largely true of women in real life as well.
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« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2025, 12:42:21 pm »

Generally: she's most receptive if you go through all the "speed" options (you have a long sex session) and you don't stop to look at your phone.

This is largely true of women in real life as well.

No spoilers!
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« Reply #77 on: January 03, 2025, 12:53:47 pm »

Question Daphne, for those of us who didn't beta test, are we allowed to guide people to certain options? Or is that also something you would prefer wait the 2 weeks?
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« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2025, 12:54:41 pm »

Question Daphne, for those of us who didn't beta test, are we allowed to guide people to certain options? Or is that also something you would prefer wait the 2 weeks?

There are no restrictions on what you can say here. I asked Hereno to hold back for a bit because of his inside information.
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« Reply #79 on: January 03, 2025, 01:08:33 pm »

1 I vaguely recall that there's a way to navigate the first scene that includes you telling Allison to get her breasts enlarged that doesn't result in her snapping abruptly out of trance, but I can't find it now. Am I misremembering? I may be remembering her getting more open to anal depending on your approach?

This is old too, so I'll answer: pretty sure Allison always snaps out of it when you ask about her boobs. No way around that.

With anal, she can suggest starting with a finger sometime.

Generally: she's most receptive if you go through all the "speed" options (you have a long sex session) and you don't stop to look at your phone.

1 I must have been misremembering! I also thought that she was more receptive to anal if you went through to her second orgasm, but checking just now I see I was wrong about that, also.
5 I guess in the past I stopped the tradwife fantasy before getting all the way to the end of it, as I am pretty sure I hadn't seen the very end of it before.
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« Reply #80 on: January 03, 2025, 01:54:21 pm »

Hypnotizing Emma in the café, while possible, is one of the "narrowest" paths in the game to date (in that there is the least variation of choices that will lead to it), so don't feel you're missing something obvious. :-)

Well, at least now I know I've just gotta deviate further from my preffered routes. I haven't yet figured out if causing Allisons hypnotism in the morning of this phase 4, instead of overnight, is the requirement. Frankly, I don't even remember how I got her to that state in the first place.

I don't expect people to know this answer necessarily,  but I just wanted to throw it out there in case somebody does establish it that isn't Hereno.
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« Reply #81 on: January 03, 2025, 02:10:45 pm »

Hypnotizing Emma in the café, while possible, is one of the "narrowest" paths in the game to date (in that there is the least variation of choices that will lead to it), so don't feel you're missing something obvious. :-)

Well, at least now I know I've just gotta deviate further from my preffered routes. I haven't yet figured out if causing Allisons hypnotism in the morning of this phase 4, instead of overnight, is the requirement. Frankly, I don't even remember how I got her to that state in the first place.

I don't expect people to know this answer necessarily,  but I just wanted to throw it out there in case somebody does establish it that isn't Hereno.

For me, getting Emma hypnotized at the cafe required achieving what I believe is the max dom route, and also not being interested in sharing. Essentially if you can get to the route where you hypnotize Allison to be faithful after visiting Renee and Dante, you should? be good, but if that isn't the case I can spell out more fully what I did.

One thing I did notice, there is an indicator after your Emma chat, and when you talk with Lorelei, the Emma chat will say something along the lines of you aren't sure of her intentions with the offer or somesuch, and when you bring her up with Lorelei, she will not comment on you not knowing when a woman is off limits, going for a different line, which I now forget.
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« Reply #82 on: January 03, 2025, 05:39:54 pm »



2 I've found three outfits for Emma on Thursday, two of which might be the same outfit presented in two different poses. I've gotten you to hypnotized Emma at the coffee shop but saw a reference to you hypnotizing her at work, is that a thing?
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Yeah, you hypnotize her at work after the cafe. Not sure what I did to cause it. Plus if you do it at work, you can give her Renee's card which I'm sure will be helpful down the line. I just got to one different outfit for Emma. I didn't even know there were different outfits til I saw your post
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« Reply #83 on: January 03, 2025, 05:45:03 pm »

Hypnotizing Emma in the café, while possible, is one of the "narrowest" paths in the game to date (in that there is the least variation of choices that will lead to it), so don't feel you're missing something obvious. :-)
Basically what I did was have to ask very specific questions to be able to hypnotize her at the cafe. One was asking about her project and then ot gives you a few things to say and you need to make sure you say the right thing. Wrong thing and she leaves. Basically keep asking questions that keep her happy to talk and after a while say deep breaths. I recommend saving before starting the conversation with Emma and restoring to be able to do the right choices. That's basically how I did it
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« Reply #84 on: January 03, 2025, 05:49:35 pm »



2 I've found three outfits for Emma on Thursday, two of which might be the same outfit presented in two different poses. I've gotten you to hypnotized Emma at the coffee shop but saw a reference to you hypnotizing her at work, is that a thing?
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Yeah, you hypnotize her at work after the cafe. Not sure what I did to cause it. Plus if you do it at work, you can give her Renee's card which I'm sure will be helpful down the line. I just got to one different outfit for Emma. I didn't even know there were different outfits til I saw your post

Renee's card? How do you get that?

As an aside, I'm very curious if Renee is always a controlling force like she is in the one route where Lorelei is scared of going to the party (iirc facts, like Renee's job, are always the same), but for now she is deff the character that has interested me the most, no small part because hypnotizing the hypnotherapist is incredibly hot.
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« Reply #85 on: January 03, 2025, 06:17:45 pm »

Hypnotizing Emma in the café, while possible, is one of the "narrowest" paths in the game to date (in that there is the least variation of choices that will lead to it), so don't feel you're missing something obvious. :-)
Basically what I did was have to ask very specific questions to be able to hypnotize her at the cafe. One was asking about her project and then ot gives you a few things to say and you need to make sure you say the right thing. Wrong thing and she leaves. Basically keep asking questions that keep her happy to talk and after a while say deep breaths. I recommend saving before starting the conversation with Emma and restoring to be able to do the right choices. That's basically how I did it

You have to establish that you're capable of hypnosis first, though
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« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2025, 08:22:26 pm »

Finally was able to hypnotize Lorelei. Turns out I just needed to be worse
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« Reply #87 on: January 03, 2025, 10:06:37 pm »

So, at first I thought it was a bug, but now I'm wondering, there are a few times where decisions during entirely separate conversations, in different chapters, will result in the same image appearing. Are these different instances of unlocking that option/aspect/route?
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« Reply #88 on: January 03, 2025, 10:10:46 pm »


2 I've found three outfits for Emma on Thursday, two of which might be the same outfit presented in two different poses. I've gotten you to hypnotized Emma at the coffee shop but saw a reference to you hypnotizing her at work, is that a thing?

Cook naked, collared Annie photo, don't talk to Allison about Annie, tell Emma she would get along with Allison, tell Lorelei you've been hypnotizing Allison, tell Lorelei about Emma, get three blowjobs from Allison and Renee, use your magic fingers on Allison to encourage her wanting to share you with other women, hypnotize Allison in the morning, meet Emma for coffee, hypnotize Emma. I've gotten her to flash you and to text you a nude, I imagine that's as much as there is in terms of content in this chapter as opposed to setup for phase 5.

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3 One time I managed to have you hypnotize Renee in the coffee shop (not in the restroom) and another time they've play-acted with you waggling your cock in her face in the restroom which didn't seem like Renee actually entering a trance state. Is there more to that?

I don't keep good enough track to determine what determines whether a) you hypnotize Renee into giving you a blowjob in the coffee shop restroom, b) Renee gives you a blowjob in the restroom without hypnosis happening, c) Renee tells you she's a hypnotherapist, or d) none of these things happen.  There's a path where Renee gives you her business card and then afterwards you use that as a prop to hypnotize Emma at work? I'd love to hear more about that.

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4 Daphne suggested there was something more brutal than the scene where you hypnotize and attempt to enslave Lorelei. Brutality is in the eye of the beholder but I haven't seen anything that seems plausibly like what she's talking about, anybody have anything?

None of the stuff with Emma or Renee that I've found comes close to the Lorelei sequence so this is still an open question. I did at one point manage to set it up so that you receive an anonymous ring emoji text message in Dante and Renee's bathroom, which alerts you to Lorelei's ring, which raises the question of who on earth would be in a position to do that and why they would.

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5 I don't remember what sets Lorelei off on Wednesday that leads to her spinning the incubus story, though eighteen months ago I'd figured it out. Also the only pre-chapter-5 new content I've stumbled across is a brief sequence while you hypnotize Allison late Wednesday night, where you can push her into a "tradwife" fantasy. Anyone have anything there?

I'm sure I could work back to this if I poke at it but I'm more curious about the pre-Chapter 5 new content that's been mentioned. It may be small adjustments that I simply haven't noticed (I admit I don't read too carefully when I'm going through yet another playthrough), rather than full, previously-absent scenes.

I had forgotten that if you keep your antics sufficiently vanilla the game ends at the close of Chapter 4, as you and Allison simply settle into domestic bliss. It's a nice touch.

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6 Speaking very generally my perception is that the paths through the game mostly don't have mutually exclusive scenes (you don't have to choose between coffee with Emma and coffee with Renee, for instance) and that there aren't any sex scenes you can lock yourself out of by opting for a different sex scene instead (obviously you can only redeem the voucher with Allison once, but not getting the voucher doesn't as far as I know unlock an otherwise-hidden scene where Allison helps you seduce Emma, or anything like that). Am I wrong?

If there's a situation where leaving Lorelei's ring, for instance, unlocks something later on you miss if you're distracted by comforting/enslaving your longtime lover, I haven't seen it. Or one where skipping the face-to-face meeting with Lorelei on Wednesday unlocks something...?
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« Reply #89 on: January 03, 2025, 10:12:00 pm »

So, at first I thought it was a bug, but now I'm wondering, there are a few times where decisions during entirely separate conversations, in different chapters, will result in the same image appearing. Are these different instances of unlocking that option/aspect/route?

I don't think it's a bug, rather there are multiple scenes which can trigger memories or fantasies that are similar enough to one another they can be illustrated the same way.
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