Starter Marriage, Phase 4

[curiouscat321]

Has anyone figured out how to progress the date with Emma? I get the sense there’s a way to not make her leave, but I haven’t found it.

[Flintnsteal]

The Lorelei-Ring sequence is the darkest part of the multipath so far...

This lead me down a rabbit hole. It seems clear that Dante, at a minimum, is responsible for some external mc occurring. Whether you lie to Allison or not at the start, she still wants to go with Dante or at expresses interest in him. Dante and Renee's house is also where you find Lorelei's ring, which seems to be invaluable to her ability to stave off any MC attempts. The fact she took it off while at their place suggests outside influence, which it's reasonable to conclude Dante's involvement with our current information. Perhaps im just stating the obvious here, but it has been fun to try and dissect the story from a readers pov. There is a fun gameing aspect because you can always restart and try new options. It's thanks to this that I found both Renee's Cafe scene and Lorelei's ringless mind control sequence which as far as i have tested seem to be mutually exclusive in that you can do one or the other. There is likely even more to discover if I was creative enough or wanted to be meaner throughout.

Lorelei's scene did feel particulalrly dark, given the circumstances. I understand that Mind Control is by definition a gray area morally but you can get up to some pretty heinous things this go around. Its just in stark contrast to the sex you can have with her having given the ring back, it is basically juat as raunchy except she's willingly doing it rsther than hypnotically so.The exception being of course the dom/sub degrees I suppose. Perhaps even that scene is just some latent programming we are yer unaware of.

So, first, I can confirm that hypnotizing Renee and Lorelei are not mutually exclusive, and neither is exclusive to hypnotizing Allison at breakfast. Also, though, I am spending far too much time considering Gremlin's reaction to how you program Lorelei. I can't decide if I think the reactions are meant to be an indicator of your dom stat, or if Gremlin, Lorelei or both are supernatural in some way (given the presence of the snake incubus in another route, supernatural stuff is obviously not off the table).

[Daphne]

I am spending far too much time considering Gremlin's reaction to how you program Lorelei.

I love this. :-)

[Flintnsteal]

I am spending far too much time considering Gremlin's reaction to how you program Lorelei.

I love this. :-)

Chekhov's gun et cetera, I could have believed you just win the cat over once you program her, but the change in reactions, and being so drastic, feels very intentional to me.

[jwik01]

Has anyone figured out how to progress the date with Emma? I get the sense there’s a way to not make her leave, but I haven’t found it.

After establishing that you are skilled at hypnosis you can have Emma take deep breaths etc until you get a chance to implant some suggestions -- only one of which can come into play before the end of the chapter, if I understand correctly.

[Flintnsteal]

Can anyone who has gotten the date with Emma confirm a few things for me? Namely, whether they had the option to pick up the ring at Renee and Dante's, whether they saw Renee at the coffee shop and whether they were able to hypnotize Lorelei?

[Haight]

I am spending far too much time considering Gremlin's reaction to how you program Lorelei.

I love this. :-)

Honestly it gave me the impression that Gremlin does not have Lorelei's best interests in mind, heh.

And it bears repeating that Starter Marriage is 100% deterministic (make what philosophical hay of it that you will :-) ). The same choices in the same order always produce the same result. The random bits that there are do not affect any outcomes.

You really missed an opportunity to fuck with people.

[Haight]

Can anyone who has gotten the date with Emma confirm a few things for me? Namely, whether they had the option to pick up the ring at Renee and Dante's, whether they saw Renee at the coffee shop and whether they were able to hypnotize Lorelei?

Yeah, I had a playthrough where I was able to hypnotize Allison, Renee, Emma, and Lorelei. Still trying to figure out what exactly prompts Allison to be hypnotized though, it seems required for the others.

[Flintnsteal]

Can anyone who has gotten the date with Emma confirm a few things for me? Namely, whether they had the option to pick up the ring at Renee and Dante's, whether they saw Renee at the coffee shop and whether they were able to hypnotize Lorelei?

Yeah, I had a playthrough where I was able to hypnotize Allison, Renee, Emma, and Lorelei. Still trying to figure out what exactly prompts Allison to be hypnotized though, it seems required for the others.

Interesting, my first question is how did you get her to agree to get coffee before the trip, because I seem to only be able to get an agreement for after I return.

[LongPlay]

A big congrats to Daphne and everyone involved in producing this! I can’t imagine the amount of work and brain-frying code it took to produce this and make it run smoothly, while still being an immersive and hot story.

I’d also appreciate any pointers on how to get to a stage where you can overtly hypnotise people in the new chapter. While I’ve been able to get into Allison into trance state in Chapter 4, and did manage to hypnotise Renee with my cock in the cafe bathroom, I haven’t discovered any more scenes along those lines. I get the sense I may have to deviate from my usual routes to get there.

[jwik01]

I think I found a piece of content in chapter 4 that's new, Allison as tradwife. Now, though, I'm trying to replicate a thing I eventually managed with hereno's advisement in 2023, get Allison to declare herself your sex slave without Annie being your sex slave as well, and the method I claimed worked in 2023 doesn't (more likely my bad note-taking than a change to the content).

[Daphne]

A big congrats to Daphne and everyone involved in producing this!

Thank you! (And thanks to PK and MS for their amazing art.)

[Flintnsteal]

A big congrats to Daphne and everyone involved in producing this! I can’t imagine the amount of work and brain-frying code it took to produce this and make it run smoothly, while still being an immersive and hot story.

I’d also appreciate any pointers on how to get to a stage where you can overtly hypnotise people in the new chapter. While I’ve been able to get into Allison into trance state in Chapter 4, and did manage to hypnotise Renee with my cock in the cafe bathroom, I haven’t discovered any more scenes along those lines. I get the sense I may have to deviate from my usual routes to get there.

I'm not quite understanding what you mean? Unless you mean how to get the Lorelei and Emma scenes, because you seem to have achieved the Allison and Renee scenes.

[hereno]

I think I found a piece of content in chapter 4 that's new, Allison as tradwife. Now, though, I'm trying to replicate a thing I eventually managed with hereno's advisement in 2023, get Allison to declare herself your sex slave without Annie being your sex slave as well, and the method I claimed worked in 2023 doesn't (more likely my bad note-taking than a change to the content).

Since this is from earlier chapters, I can answer these.

The Allison tradwife path ("Let's talk about you being my maid" through four stages) is old; was there all along.

There's a couple paths to Allison's self-declaration as slave, but an easy one is to get the explicit commitment out of Annie and then reject her.

[Flintnsteal]

Ok, I am going to need some help getting the scene with Emma, I can get the fantasy of her blowing me after talking with her, but not the encounter with her in the final chapter. I've tried telling Lorelei about her and not telling Lorelei about her, and I'm not seeing what else connects with her.