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Title: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 04, 2013, 10:54:13 pm
Coming Friday, September 6th!


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 05, 2013, 04:20:38 am
Derek's back!!  Or so it seems.  Fun time with Jen?  Or does Yates' wife get home and join in?  Is that even the dancer's name?

I can't believe I forgot the name of Maddy's workplace.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: laguna85 on September 06, 2013, 07:37:34 am
It's look like the person copy the book with the smart phone and made some Pink Cloud
My thinking it's maybe MIRIAM  aka Pearl ???

She know Q pink cloud


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 06, 2013, 09:32:31 am
I know those gloves don't I?  Rain? ??? Isn't Jacqui the one most likely to pick up that bottle?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Haight on September 06, 2013, 11:33:50 am
Who is that?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 06, 2013, 11:50:43 am
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Tony on September 06, 2013, 01:41:43 pm
Alex lost the bottle and the person that picked it up knew she had it. It could be the person that gave Alex the bottle. I also think that person is after Katie at this point. And all we know so far is that it isn't Yves and I doubt it is Jacqui. The person that picked it up also knew exactly what it was and what it could do.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 06, 2013, 02:23:28 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Tony on September 06, 2013, 02:52:48 pm
Alex said she "had to find..." and the other person said "this?" Alex then said "No! W..." so I think she recognized the bottle.

Jacqui is visible. Yet she is in the wrong place, by Ives and Adrian.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 06, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 06, 2013, 04:17:04 pm
Is there a medical doctor on campus?  I didn't think Zenon was an MD.  Whoever this interloper is, he or she is wearing gloves and incapacitating people with dosed surgical masks.  All of which makes me ask--where's Marliese (an RN who we've seen in scrubs before) and what's she up to right now?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 06, 2013, 04:17:45 pm
I didn't think Zenon was an MD. 

Psychiatrists are MDs.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 06, 2013, 06:04:19 pm
Technically, yes.  But is a psychiatrist going to serve as a GP for a college?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: mns_95125 on September 06, 2013, 11:09:23 pm
Katie may be the target, or she may be a pawn in a wider plan. But I think Alex's role (her prints are on the bottle, and she thinks Yves gave it to her) must be a significant part of it. It's not clear to me why Adrian and Jacqui and Yves and Caitlyn had to be over there having their little dramatic moment just as this was happening. But perhaps that's a significant part of the plan too.

Or, as I keep pointing out, Adrian/Jacqui/Caitlyn's presence may have been purely coincidental.  Indeed, at this point I think that's the most likely possibility since neither Yves nor Alex shows any recognition of the three and there's no obvious way for the background mastermind to have known they would be present at the strip club anyhow.  SJI has significant 'slice of life' elements to it.  Not every detail has to be connected to someone's nefarious plotting.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 07, 2013, 02:51:02 am
Pop-up text indicates a guy's presence.  So, I'm confused.  That's not Derek's mobile wreck and it doesn't look like anything Sawyer, Hans or Zenon would drive.  Is that really Q's car?

One more quick question--when did Katie go full-on Meghan blonde?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: laguna85 on September 07, 2013, 08:25:13 am
It's look like the person copy the book with the smart phone and made some Pink Cloud
My thinking it's maybe MIRIAM  aka Pearl ???

She know Q pink cloud

add more to this
 look at guest page 18,19,20

GP 19 look like Katie ?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 07, 2013, 08:33:04 am
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 07, 2013, 12:22:55 pm
Except we don't have an age confirmed on Katie.  g-19 takes place five years (and change) before The Night of The Watch.  Also, mystery blond has blue eyes and Katie has aquamarine eyes--but that could be an interpretation difference or contacts.

ETA--GW, I maintain that it is plausible (in fact seemingly more plausible from current context) that Caitlyn was referring to the time she arrived at the SJI and not getting to the car.  I apologize both for the strident tone of my earlier response and misattributing things to our fearless author.  I genuinely thought I'd some of it from her first.  I must ask pardon of both of you.

I maintain that it would be impossible for Caitlyn to be late to the car for two reasons

1. This is a spontaneous trip in response to what happened to Dani.  It wasn't pre-planned, she couldn't have been invited; and
2. No one was aware she wanted to get out of the house until she said something herself upon hearing Erin's form of discipline for Raven.  Her suggestion, Mallory's okay, neither Adrian or Jacqui were in earshot.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 07, 2013, 01:33:44 pm
ETA--GW, pretty please with sugar on top, let go of Caitlyn's comment.  Daphne already resolved that for us.  Caitlyn was talking about being late to the SJI because the game went longer than expected, not about being late to the car.

I remember you saying that Caitlyn was talking about being late to the SJI. And I remember me saying that that makes no sense at all (it's reply 20 in the thread for 211). But I don't remember this third person you mention entering the conversation and explaining how in fact it makes perfect sense. So like the gentleman I am I let it lie, on the assumption that it was one of those threads I shouldn't pull too hard at. I only mentioned it in passing here to underline that the arguments regarding Caitlyn's plans for Saturday night have been aired before. But then you come along raking it all up again...


We know when g16 took place. I'd guess a fair amount of time would have to have passed before g17-20.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 07, 2013, 01:40:23 pm
All I can ask is that no one be too disappointed when the quantum state finally resolves in favor of one interpretation or another...

(And if I haven't mentioned lately how much I love these conversations, this is me, mentioning it again. :) )


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 07, 2013, 02:18:05 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 07, 2013, 07:10:35 pm
Living or dead, happily married, mourned, or angrily living with a twit using the stage for rage relief.  Or maybe something else altogether.  Lots of different possiblities.

Just as Adrian is either

1. broke living with Echo.
2. Physically and emotionally spent with trauma and grief or
3. A married wealthy father in a happy polyamorous relationship.  or

4. ???

Also, I believe Pearl was a college freshman visiting her mother on break when she got entangled with Q and witnessed  THE INCIDENT.

Isn't she 23 now?  So that's a minimum of four years between Q getting busted and Pearl showing up again.  I would think an absolute minimum of two years for her to complete undergrad work.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: OctaviaMoon on September 08, 2013, 01:31:52 am

look at guest page 18,19,20

GP 19 look like Katie ?

...whereas that does.

But he calls her "Annie"?

ARTISTS DISCLAIMER: Blue...by the light of the moonlight might look like aquamarine...and blond, by the light of car park lights and moonlight might look like light blonde. I think it's safe to say, here, that variations in hair, eye, skin, car, lip, nail, shoe, boot, stocking, pants, knickers or any clothing colour are simply my attempts to bring some variety to my colouring to convey mood, tone, lighting effects, time of day (or night) and the like; they should not be viewed as visual clues to the story or plot....


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 08, 2013, 10:11:23 am
But he calls her "Annie"?

Did he? I'm confused.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: OctaviaMoon on September 08, 2013, 12:01:23 pm
But he calls her "Annie"?

Did he? I'm confused.

Yeah, In panel 2 - he says "come up here, Annie" :)


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 08, 2013, 12:04:21 pm
Yeah, In panel 2 - he says "come up here, Annie" :)

Well, look at that!


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 08, 2013, 02:03:12 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 08, 2013, 02:20:49 pm
So she would turn 24 between September 2011 and June 2012.

Indeed, Pearl "Miriam" (Ravella) Cantor was born April 1, 1988. Guest pages 17-20 occur in June, 2007.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: GodWilling on September 11, 2013, 01:47:03 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 11, 2013, 03:04:26 pm
39-23 = 16!!  Jacqui was a punk-rock Lorelai Gilmore.  So, I'd go with no.  I...I think we need more clarification on this. In the guest pages before The Incident, it seemed like Pearl was visiting, not home on break.  So, Ezra was raising her? ??? ???


Presumably his last name on the birth certificate, but that would be a public record of a hotshot entertainment lawyer hooking up with a really young roadie/groupie at a rock concert.

Hopefully, he had a little Rick Castle cool factor as a single father.

Like I said, the more I look at this the more confusing it gets.



Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: Daphne on September 11, 2013, 03:06:07 pm
39-23 = 16!! 

Before we get too excited here, we all know women who have been 39 for several years.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: jmundt29 on September 12, 2013, 06:30:14 am
Is Ravella derived from Italian?  I'm beginning to wonder if Rain has equivalents with human descendants.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 219: The Patron Saint of Losers.
Post by: laguna85 on September 22, 2013, 05:34:07 am
One character we have not see is YVETTE
name on some of the stores, also may use the pink cloud to help in sale.

I came up with this by relook at (GodWilling ) SJI cast list