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Hi

Ok, so I am a long-time member and fan of this site, heck I saved the site to me Favourites when the “site” was just a place holder waiting for the actual site to go live.

When things started, I looked forward to the new content every week, I knew it would be of top quality and I might love it or I might hate it, or it might fall anywhere between those two extremes, but even if I hated it then I knew it wasn’t actually BAD, it just wasn’t for me and the chances where that next week they’d be something a bit more up my ally coming out…basically even in the slowest/worst month (from my perspective) their would always be at least one comic that really hit the tone I was after…

I…can’t really say that anymore, over the last little while (most of 2018 to be honest) there have been multiple months in a row that there wasn’t one comic out that I could really get into, and even when there was a comic out that I liked it more often than not, was a matter of them being “OK” rather than “GREAT” …

With me seeming to have less and less cash to spend on anything other than absolute necessities, I am having to seriously consider whether to keep re-upping my subscription…but I really don’t WANT to cancel,
I’ve been here since the beginning…but as I said there have been whole months of content put out (some time consecutively) which just flat out doesn’t do anything for me, no matter how well scripted or drawn they may be, which makes it hard to justify it even to myself…

Now of course content needs to be driven by the majority; Daphne and Co need to appeal to the widest number of people possible in order to keep the site running and so keep making new content, so if what is being produced is appealing to that majority then that’s that really…I guess I was just wondering if anyone was in the same boat with me?

As a writer and artist (who contributes on the tiniest level) I'd be interested to know what you thought was 'good' and what wasn't. You can describe that in terms of titles you liked most - or if it was the story or the art etc.

DeltaDelta,
I've also been a member since before the beginning, so to speak. There's plenty that I find geared toward other interests than mine, but also plenty that really pushes my buttons.

Is the issue possibly (or partially) that a number of popular series have come to a close over the last year or two?

I'll let the discussion run, but I'll offer that I really don't write for "the majority" or with much of an eye to what I think is going to be popular; I just write what I find hot.

I think you've got a good handle on a wide range of hotness.

Quote from Who framed Roger rabbit Jessica Rabbit: You don't know how hard it is being a woman looking the way I do.
Jessica Rabbit: I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way.
 Some Draw of over side shuff ! ( ok breast) I do not like but still part of the story. (The Hidden Knowledge the maids)( sorry maid )
What got me took on the web site the first couple mind control comics.
Some old still keep me hanging what go happen next.  but may not be hot today.  I live with it
 

Some comics/issues I like, some I don't. I don't think the ratio has changed too much since the beginning (I'm also a charter member). I agree that there are cold spells occasionally, but, hey: the market isn't just me. It may well be "just Daphne," but that works for me more often than not.

Also: Daphne, if you really are just writing for yourself, it's pretty awesome you've managed to get this many people to pay for your sex fantasies. If anybody wants to pay me for, I don't know, walking around my neighborhood, I'll gladly set up a subscription service.

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I second this :)

That's totally because I've gotten more into it.

Should we jet, then?

I think I've noticed a shift, as well - it definitely seems like there's been a lot more one-shots that are just too short to do anything for me, and compounded with the fact that the average comic length seems to be 12 pages rather than the 16 you'd actually expect for a comic, it's really hard to get into them.

I don't think you can expect people to follow a story that's published in small increments once or twice a year.

There's also the weirdness about some people getting off not so much on the heterosexual sex, but the male-male competition of taking a partner from another male - I guess I just find that kink to be a turn-off, but I think a decent amount of people here are into it (or into the idea of having their partner taken away from them, which actually seems decently common these days). So that's a difference of opinion on kink, I guess, but not a structural one with how stories are told.

In general I feel pretty unsatisfied when stories seem to end scenes suddenly to fit stories into the issue format or build cheap tension.

I'm all for the BE tho.

Well, that's definitely not a change in the site. The "standard" drawn comic has been 12 pages since day one; 16 page issues are a (relatively) recent innovation, and only on a few titles.

I guess if you can manage to incorporate into your walk the variety, artistic content, sense of humour and imagination that Daphne et al manage in their stories then they just might....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w        ;D

Yes, but it means that when you move a story to a "very infrequent" release schedule it is even more noticeable since there's even less story.

There are a few stories where I would have killed for as little as one more page.

I am honestly sorry if some of the content isn't to people's taste. I assure you that I don't set out to write things that people won't like! I'm not sure how to take on DeltaDelta's initial comment, though. If you want to articulate particular things that weren't to your taste, I'd be curious.

Since we have 52 (or 53) updates a year, that's a fixed limit on how frequently anything can come out. This means a fundamental tradeoff between frequency and variety. Remember that if some things are to one's taste, and some aren't, a decision to run a particular title more frequently may mean that the one you really hate is the one that you're stuck with more often.

I'd love to increase the page count, but the only real cost on this site is art. (And it's a huge cost. There are parts of the US where you could buy a house for what MCC spends on art in a year.) My feeling is that our subscriptions are expensive enough as it is, and bumping page count across the board would mean we'd have to raise prices.

So, I'm always happy to get feedback, as long as it is understood that there aren't that many "if you'd just..." options we haven't considered.

I have a decent feel for what this costs and based on what I've seen, looking into self-funding some of the stuff I can't get people to pay me for, and read elsewhere you're paying well. Trust me, I appreciate it. I like good art, and I like good artists being able to eat. I figure they need to do it from time to time.

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I have found stuff I thought was hot, and stuff I thought was a hot *idea*, but the art execution didn't quite pull it off, and stuff that was part of telling the story and which took up way too much time (not trusting the reader to get it). Here's some examples:

This is a great idea, but there's nothing that indicates to me that the girl is under any kind of compulsion other than the caption: https://mindcontrolcomics.com/comics/ri/i042/. Same artist, but note: the 2 girls in the back are clearly hypnotized; the one in the front, not so much. See how tiny differences make the difference? https://mindcontrolcomics.com/comics/ri/i036/. I think moving the girl in front's right eye to the right a tiny bit would've made all the difference in that image.

Compare this shot from Chrysalis 1: https://mindcontrolcomics.com/comics/chrysalis/i01/p13, with pretty much anything in the last 4 issues. It's a TF + MC story, but the TF is so dominant in the art that the MC barely comes out, except in the text.

Consider https://mindcontrolcomics.com/comics/piece_and_quiet_bonus/: great piece. But it took 5 of 10 pages to set it up, even though it was obvious what was going to happen after a few panels on pages 3 and 5. The 2-page MC sequence for the first girl is nice; the MC for the other 2 is a half-page, and the rest is denouement. I suggest the whole comic could've been done in 5-6 pages, or 4-5 more pages could've been devoted to enthrallment and "now what am I going to do with you 3".

I find that about 30% of the content pushes my buttons, given the total package of art + story. Usually I find the story pretty hot (and interesting *as a story*), but the art makes or breaks it as MC porn.

General Body Modification, female and male, started when the site opened in 2010.

You'll find it in the following:

Pumpkins
Extreme Makeover
The Wizard of Bras
SideShow
Date Movie
Start Up
Ring Cycle
The Changing Room
Extreme Makeover 2
Delivered
This Sucks
Free Cable
Miss Thursday
Wild Girls
The Pool of Doctor Viagari
Alteration
Like Old Times
The Wedding Photographer
Milk and Honeys
Con 'Fused
In Season
Trial and Eros
Beyond Rubies
Business as Usual
Vector
Extreme Makeover 3
Roll Playing
Upon Reflection
The Chrysalis
The Ring Cycle
Growth Potential
Bigger
Permed
Gig Economy
Faerie Tail
Infestation
Shelter in Place
Roll Playing 2
Seasons
Safety First!
Cuckoo's Nest
The Alchemist
The Hidden Knowledge
Expanded Universe
Saint James Infirmary

And I'll add Drains to the list though I'm not as sure about that one.

You're welcome.  ;)

In both Daphne's and my own defense...there's a 'casual' rotation of types of MC in these. I've noticed people saying "Oh but she doesn't look hypnotised" - but spiral eyes aren't the only way to convey that affect. Sometimes a girl is hypnotised to fuck a guy - we see that she is annoyed, or confused. We see that by her facial expression...but she's still 'having' to fuck him, because she's hypnotised :) Sometimes the girl is quite pleased to be hypnotised in to docile adoration, so she's looking up at him, breathless and wanting - against her will.

All of those things will trigger different aficionados...because our triggers are different. I'd assume you prefer the more obvious 'blank expression' kind. Myself, I prefer the unhappy pouting 'I'm doing it, but I have no idea why" or the "Get off me...don't stop...stop...don't stop...I'm really pissed...don't stop" kind. You can't show those subtleties of emotional conflict with blank stares and spiral eyes :)

Yes, these are good points, and I probably shouldn't have picked one-panel comics as illustrations, either, as it's really really hard to both develop the story and show how it ends up in any reasonable way.

Depth > Breadth, even if it's not something I'm 100% aligned with, is where I'm at. If it ends up being cheating-focused stories that have all the mc happen offscreen? I'd move along, I guess.