Saint James Infirmary 374: Control Issues

[Haight]

Daphne, by 'not canon' do you mean that Jakob didn't literally say 'it was Tuesday' or that you're not confirming that Adrian's original troubles were merely collateral damage?

For all we know, Adrian *could* know about Rain's promise. We still don't know what went down in that first conversation with Rain, and we still don't know what kind of music she's teaching him.

[Daphne]

Daphne, by 'not canon' do you mean that Jakob didn't literally say 'it was Tuesday' or that you're not confirming that Adrian's original troubles were merely collateral damage?

The latter. Don't read anything into the quote either way.

[jmundt29]

Fun note, when Chun Li got her own terrible movie, her father (or was he a foster father) was Bison's specific target because of his knowledge and technical expertise.  So, they went the completely opposite route.

Also, Julia played that scene as if

1. Bison is lying, trying to reinforce his own delusion, and
2. Just uttering the words made him seem like a prancing weak dipshit utterly unworthy of her time.

In this particular case, Jakob seems like a much more formidable foe, and it could be pure coincidence--but it's a cruel irony...for him, that type of fulfillment and satisfaction he can't find is right under his nose and he never saw it the first time and

His machinations produced a situation and person able to achieve what he sought by a completely different path.  Interesting.

[GodWilling]

Are you saying it isn't Tuesday...?


My point wasn't that Adrian is clearly a villain. It was that we've never known for sure that he's a decent guy. And similarly Weston is an unknown quantity. In the absence of "Bad Guy" signs above certain characters' heads, I'm suspicious of all the characters we meet. And that scene with the kiss was decidedly intriguing...

[jmundt29]

Just demonstrating that the dialogue and performance of that scene don't match.  That's all.  Also, I'm trying to attribute a goal to this asshole to humanize him.  Why?  To make him a more interesting villain.  Does he need to be more interesting?  Maybe not.

[Daphne]

Well, remember that Julia was extremely ill at the time, and made that movie because his kids begged him to (sniff). It wasn't his best performance ever.

[jmundt29]

I've seen him in Presumed Innocent.  I know he had real chops.  What I meant was, that version of Bison is much more akin to...um, Borat...than an all-powerful evil dictator.  So, the dialogue can have iconic meaning, but in the movie it just shows him more the fool.

[Daphne]

Gomez Addams will always be my favorite role of his.

[jmundt29]

I hear that a lot.  I confess I've never understood why.  Neither the animated series (succeeding the TV show) nor the live-action cinematic adaptation clicked with me.  It wasn't a bad performance, just not my taste.

[Vidor]

"Miriam.  Stop.

GODDAMMIT.

[jmundt29]

Vidor--Perfect and succinct way of expressing the thought process of probably 99% of the readership of this comic (including me) reading that panel.

 Well, as frustrating as his demonstration of restraint was...the thought bubble over her head near the end infuriated me.

However, at this moment, I believe we can just shred various convoluted theories of nefarious intent on Adrian's part.  So, that's something at least.