The Flow of Starter Marriage

[Ch1mmy]

has anyone figured out the collar route again? Because I have just been trying and nothing works so far.

[hereno]

I would never have assumed that being deceitful makes me more a controller

My understanding here: the logic is, if you were an evil mind controller, what kind of person would you be? An immoral, selfish person! So making decisions consistent with that will push you that direction. It isn't the only factor, so there are other choices you can make, but I'm pretty positive it has an effect.

[Flintnsteal]

has anyone figured out the collar route again? Because I have just been trying and nothing works so far.

Haven't figured out a run that works, but I've noticed all my attempts have Allison trying to fuck you on the table off the rip when chapter 5 starts, and I'm wondering if getting a run where Allison is not fully bought in is needed, which I also have no idea how I would make happen.

[ktc1221]

has anyone figured out the collar route again? Because I have just been trying and nothing works so far.

do you mean a route where Annie texts you with a collar picture?

[Ch1mmy]

Whatever the mind control route that allows you to do the bliss or blank trance allison as well as hypnotize renee and emma at the coffee shop.

[Flintnsteal]

Ok, so, slight progress, I've found a route that gets hypnotizing Allison and Renee, but not Emma.

[Ch1mmy]

do tell what is different from the old way of doing it.

[Flintnsteal]

Got the full thing, here's how I did it, not sure what options are flexible, and I am not including single option decisions:

Now is not the time.
Speed up, fucking her harder.
Keep going, but slow down and delay your orgasm.
This is perfect, just the right speed... keep going.
Speed up; you can feel how much she wants it.
Stop... it's time for that thing she loves.
"You will cook and serve dinner naked tomorrow."
You gently tease her legs apart to continue fucking her.
"Nothing important. Now, we both have big days tomorrow."

... wait. You hear familiar noises from the shower.
See what you can find on the Internet.
... head off to work.
Yeah, kinda still pissed. What's up?
The guy you left me for?
So, why get in touch now?
Let me think about it.
... get to work; it's better to talk with Allison about this in person.
... other activities. The situation with Annie can wait.
... cuddle up to Allison for the night.

I still can't believe you're asking after what you did.
I'm listening.
And what kind of apology did you have in mind?
It's going to take more than make-up sex.
I'm not trying to hurt you.
Isn't there someone else who could help?
I don't want to risk my relationship.
We haven't talked about it.
I'm not sure how'd she react to us having sex.
If I'm going to risk it, I need an explicit commitment.
Really?
... text your "friend".
It's been a while since we've...
That, and Annie.
"Wanted to remind them I work here. What are you up to?"
"She's doing great! How's... I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name."
"What happened?"
"We should grab coffee sometime. Away from work."
"Of course! I think you two would get along great."
... Annie's offer.
"I don't know. But it's very appealing."
"It would be complicated, but worth it."
"Allison might be ready to hear about it."
"She's been very sexual, in new ways."
"'My girlfriend is a nymphomaniac' doesn't earn much sympathy, I know."
"Yes! How did you know?"
"Perhaps hypnosis explains Renée's new breasts."
... go down on her.
... start fingering her.
... ask her to go down on you.
... help her up, and head to dinner.
... impulsively present her with the voucher.
"Excuse me for a moment." You duck to the bathroom.
... follow Renée into the kitchen, having taken the ring.
"Yeah. Just for the weekend, I hope."
"No point in being mad at her forever."
"I hypnotized her to accept it."
... return to the subject of Renée's boobs.
... turn to point her out to Allison.

"As long as you are OK with me and Renée."
"She offered me a blowjob, and I accepted."
"Next time, I'll order you to join us."
You ask, "Then, how about a roadside blowjob?"
Excuse yourself to the bathroom.
"I have something I want to do to you."
"Let's talk about you being more adventurous."
"You want to do adult modeling."
"We're going to fuck now."
... say, "I want to come on your tits."

This should get you there, now, obviously its tailored to my tastes, so experiment around, see what works that fits yours better.

[twobears]

When you do Alison's special thing after the dinner with Dante and Renee, I've managed to get four steps deep into some of the discussions.

With being more Adventuresome, I've gotten all the way down to Alison agreeing to work as a prostitute.
With the boob job discussion, I've managed to get all the way up to enormous, with pictures

With some of the other discussions I can get as far.
In particular, when talking about anal, it stops very quickly.

With the tradwife path, I can only get three steps into it.

Have folks managed to get further along?

[hereno]

Sheeez, you guys.

I started this thread in December 2022. In two years (before Phase 4 dropped in January 2025), it got less than 10,000 views.

In the last four months, you guys have looked at it another 30,000 times. It just crossed 40,000 today.

You guys really liked Ch. 5, huh?

[Flintnsteal]

I just realized, the "she was always so hot for you" picture isnt Paula, its Renee, I'd been assuming its Paula, but the room is the same room that Renee sends you a picture from if you use the boon on her.

[hereno]

I just realized, the "she was always so hot for you" picture isnt Paula, its Renee, I'd been assuming its Paula, but the room is the same room that Renee sends you a picture from if you use the boon on her.

Wow. Great catch. I totally thought that was Paula too.