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« Reply #165 on: May 19, 2025, 07:44:40 am »

Has anyone managed to get the option to find the door open/unlocked when the protagonist gets home?  I used to get that option, but can't seem to find my way back to it...
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« Reply #166 on: May 19, 2025, 12:03:54 pm »

I'm messing around with a somewhat specific path, and I'm curious if anyone else has had success with it. I'm specifically looking for a path in which you on the first night use Allison's special thing to get her to suck you off, you get both Emma and Renee to come to coffee, you use hypnosis on both while there, as opposed to magic or brainwashing or what have you, and then can hypnotize Lorelei. I've found a somewhat similar path, in which you can hypnotize Renee at the coffee shop, but then have to decide between hypnotizing Emma in her cubicle, or hypnotizing Lorelei.
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« Reply #167 on: May 19, 2025, 01:29:17 pm »

I heard rumors that someone found a way to hypnotize Allison are breakfast

Can anyone confirm this (or better yet provide a path)
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« Reply #168 on: May 19, 2025, 05:49:15 pm »

I heard rumors that someone found a way to hypnotize Allison are breakfast

Can anyone confirm this (or better yet provide a path)

I have one. Prior to the recent updates I used to be able to get here after going the breast enlargement-focused route; so far, lately I've only been able to get here from the maid fetish one.

Quote from: Starter Marriage
A Phone Pings
⇝ Now is not the time.
She turns around as the phone gives...
⇝ Speed up, fucking her harder.
Allison is a very good fuck; she...
⇝ Keep going, but slow down and delay your orgasm.
Allison always seems to be hunting...
⇝ This is perfect, just the right speed... keep going.
Allison does need a lot of foreplay...
⇝ Speed up; you can feel how much she wants it.
And Allison is kinky in her own...
⇝ Stop... it's time for that thing she loves.
Her "special thing" involves her...
⇝ "You will cook and serve dinner naked tomorrow."
Doing this is a huge fantasy of...
⇝ "Speaking of swallowing..."
She gives a little private smile...
⇝ "I should deal with that text."
It's from your ex, Annie. Not just...
⇝ "Nothing important. Now, we both have big days tomorrow."
"Thank you for a lovely evening...
⇝ The next morning you are awoken by a pleasant surprise.
Memory Lane
Memory Lane
⇝ You have something to check out on your phone.
You get the phone off of the...
⇝ You find one that reminds you of wait. You hear familiar noises from the shower.
Allison is in the shower. This is...
⇝ You wander off to set out breakfast.
At breakfast, Allison asks, "What...
⇝ Call a friend who might know what's up.
To your amazement, Lorelei actually...
⇝ Call Annie.
You take a deep breath, and push...
⇝ Unfortunately you have to get to work.
Just as you sit down at work, you...
⇝ Yeah, kinda still pissed. What's up?
Sorry I couldn't pick up earlier...
⇝ The guy you left me for?
Sorry I couldn't pick up earlier...
⇝ So, why get in touch now?
Sorry I couldn't pick up earlier...
⇝ Let me think about it.
Sorry I couldn't pick up earlier...
⇝ Then you get to work; it's better to talk with Allison about this in person.
You arrive back at the apartment...
⇝ Time for you to talk about the texts with Annie.
Before things continue, you bring up...
⇝ "I'm not going to decide tonight."
Allison nods. "No matter what you...
⇝ ... text Annie that you're still deciding.
You excuse yourself to the bathroom...
⇝ Then you go back to the bedroom.
You come back into the bedroom...
⇝ The next morning you wake up alone.
The Butterfly Effect
The Butterfly Effect
⇝ You check your phone.
Any news?
⇝ I still can't believe you're asking after what you did.
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ It's a bit late for make-up sex.
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ I'm not trying to hurt you.
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ It sounds like you're asking for more than help with paperwork.
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ If I'm going to risk it, I need an explicit commitment.
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ Really?
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ I'll come. And I will hold you to that.
Any news?  I still can't believe...
⇝ You reply text Lorelei.
Hey. Can we get together today? I...
⇝ It's been a while since we've...
Hey. Can we get together today? I...
⇝ That, and Annie.
Hey. Can we get together today? I...
⇝ Perfect. See you then.
Hey. Can we get together today? I...
⇝ You reply call Allison.
"Hello," she says, her voice sultry...
⇝ ... head off to work.
You sit down in your cube. The...
⇝ "Wanted to remind them I work here. What are you up to?"
You sit down in your cube. The...
⇝ "She's doing great! How's... I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name."
You sit down in your cube. The...
⇝ "We should grab coffee sometime. Away from work."
You sit down in your cube. The...
⇝ "She and I have an understanding."
You sit down in your cube. The...
⇝ You say get back to work.
You can smell a hint of Emma's...
⇝ And then you work until it's time for your date with Lorelei.
You and Lorelei have been friends...
⇝ You bring up telling Allison about your affair.
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "Things have changed with Allison."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "She's been very sexual, in new ways."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "It might mean she's cheating on me."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "She's almost pushing me between Annie's legs."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "Very much! I'd hate to think of her with another man."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "Then my problem would be that she's not sharing."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "Speaking of other women, I had an encounter with a coworker today."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "I'm stalling, though. The situation with Annie..."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "I think so. But I don't understand her motives."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "It would be complicated, but worth it."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ "You're right, of course. After my trip."
"You know that I am not happy about...
⇝ You reply you wait for her summons.
The summons is not long in coming...
⇝ You slide onto the bed and go down on her.
You slide between her legs. She...
⇝ You start fingering her.
She needs no encouragement as you...
⇝ You ask her to go down on you.
You lie back. Although she is happy...
⇝ And then you take her.
You take your position on top of...
⇝ And then you you slowly pull out.
You reach over, grab a towel from a...
⇝ And then you head home.
When you get home, to make your way...
⇝ You help her up, and bring up your relationship with Lorelei.
You hope you do not sound as nervous...
⇝ You impulsively present her with the voucher.
You slip the note out of your...
⇝ ... knock.
You really do like Dante and Renée...
⇝ "Excuse me for a moment." You duck to the bathroom.
You pull out your phone. Annie's...
⇝ So, you follow Renée into the kitchen, having taken the ring.
When you get to the kitchen, there's...
⇝ "Yeah. Just for the weekend, I hope."
When you get to the kitchen, there's...
⇝ "No point in being mad at her forever."
When you get to the kitchen, there's...
⇝ "I hypnotized her to accept it."
When you get to the kitchen, there's...
⇝ "How can I say no to that?"
"I was hoping you'd say yes," she...
⇝ You follow her back to the living room.
As you come into the living room...
⇝ You ask what the conversation you walked into was.
Allison sounds casual. "I was just...
⇝ As the evening winds down, you say your goodbyes.
As you walk to the car, your eye is...
⇝ You turn to point her out to Allison.
The Girlfriend Experience
You turn to Allison. "Look. Over...
⇝ You head to the car.
You get to the car, and open the...
⇝ "Lorelei is interested in bedding Annie, presumably with me."
Allison gives an offended snort...
⇝ "You've been delightfully sexual lately!"
She leans the car seat back. "God, I...
⇝ You ask, "Then, how about a roadside blowjob?"
No hesitation. "Yes, Master." You...
⇝ You finish the drive home.
The moment the door is closed...
⇝ Excuse yourself to the bathroom.
You break off, and look into her...
⇝ ... text Lorelei.
Allison and I spoke. Oh? She's fine...
⇝ ... join Allison in the bedroom.
Allison is waiting for you on the...
⇝ "With pleasure, slave."
Even though you've already been...
⇝ say, "I have a question for you."
Even though you've already been...
⇝ "Are you upset about me getting head from Renée?"
Even though you've already been...
⇝ Then you decide to explore her being your sex-slave.
Even though you've already been...
⇝ Then you focus on what you are doing with her.
You decide on a position change. You...
⇝ Then say, "I want to come on your face."
You move into position as she...
⇝ ... hand her a towel.
"Thank you, Master." She gets the...
⇝ And then you dream.
right up on the meeting room table
⇝ And then your dream continues.
coming home to them
⇝ And then your dream continues.
watching her will drain away
⇝ And then your dream continues.
didn't want to mess up her makeup
⇝ And then during the night...
Relationship Goals
Later that night, you awaken...
⇝ The next morning at breakfast...
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« Reply #169 on: May 19, 2025, 06:20:03 pm »

I have one.

Something to note for everyone copy-pasting from the new "Path" system: this ooooold forum system can't handle the emojis from the beginning of Ch. 3: The Butterfly Effect. So, as it does with Haight's here, it just cuts off at that point. You'll need to manually remove those emojis if you want the rest of your path to come through.
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« Reply #170 on: May 19, 2025, 06:20:39 pm »

I have one.

Something to note for everyone copy-pasting from the new "Path" system: this ooooold forum system can't handle the emojis from the beginning of Ch. 3: The Butterfly Effect. So, as it does with Haight's here, it just cuts off at that point. You'll need to manually remove those emojis if you want the rest of your path to come through.

Yeah, sorry about that. Better system in the works.
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« Reply #171 on: May 19, 2025, 07:35:26 pm »

I have one.

Something to note for everyone copy-pasting from the new "Path" system: this ooooold forum system can't handle the emojis from the beginning of Ch. 3: The Butterfly Effect. So, as it does with Haight's here, it just cuts off at that point. You'll need to manually remove those emojis if you want the rest of your path to come through.

Thanks for pointing that out.
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« Reply #172 on: May 20, 2025, 05:09:54 am »

I heard rumors that someone found a way to hypnotize Allison are breakfast

Can anyone confirm this (or better yet provide a path)

I have one. Prior to the recent updates I used to be able to get here after going the breast enlargement-focused route; so far, lately I've only been able to get here from the maid fetish one.

Thanks!

I had forgotten about this one
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« Reply #173 on: May 20, 2025, 05:18:50 am »

I heard rumors that someone found a way to hypnotize Allison are breakfast

Can anyone confirm this (or better yet provide a path)

You can get that by following this path

https://forum.mindcontrolcomics.com/index.php?topic=3428.msg31200#msg31200
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« Reply #174 on: May 20, 2025, 08:25:03 am »

If we're dishing about paths, anyone know a route to get Emma to flash you without hypnotizing or ring-enchanting her into it?
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« Reply #175 on: May 20, 2025, 12:58:24 pm »

I feel like there’s no compelling reason to choose the anal option, as it’s the least rewarding path with little to no results so far. Is this choice being built up toward something significant, like how 'Big Boobs' turns Allison into a giggly air headed Bimbo (SO HOT!!!) or 'Cook & Serve Dinner Naked' transforms her into a Maid? Has anyone found anything interesting about this path?
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« Reply #176 on: May 20, 2025, 04:39:24 pm »

I feel like there’s no compelling reason to choose the anal option

I mean, if you go that route, Allison will talk about doing anal when you text her in the middle of the day in Ch. 5. So clearly it introduces the idea into the game.
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« Reply #177 on: May 21, 2025, 01:59:35 am »

does anyone have advice on how to get the blue shirt emma consistently. I can do the same run over and over and on 1 run I can get the blue shirt, but repeat it another 5 with only changing the type of commands on allison (special thing) and for some reason I only get the white shirt hr emma. And I am doing the same kind of conversation with her. Dont know if I am just being dumb since this conversation has been a thing for a while or if certain changes have made it harder to get.

Edit:im talking about the collar runs. But if anyone has advice on getting blue shirt emma for the ring run that can be commanded that would be cool as well. Did it once and haven't been able to recreate it.
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« Reply #178 on: May 21, 2025, 04:09:30 pm »

5. RELATIONSHIP GOALS (PART 3)
Once you walk in the door to your apartment, Allison will be in one of four states, which drives the rest of this section.

SMILING ALLISON (COUCH)
If there’s not much MC happening (or at least she’s not aware of it), Allison will be sitting on the couch smiling. You will chat a little bit; a lot of permutations here. She might:
•   Talk about what she’ll do while you’re away with Annie: work, send you pictures, go on a date with Dante, etc
•   Talk about the party, including changing her mind and insisting on going (if she wasn’t already)
•   Say she wants to make “a big change” in her life (quit her job), which can in turn lead her to other ideas: becoming your full-time slave, becoming a sex worker, etc

After, in certain runs where your cock is hypnotic, you can “unzip” here and dicknotize her.

You can suggest dinner, a blowjob, or sex. She’s generally amenable, though sometimes she’ll want dinner first (terrible idea in real life, always have sex before dinner, pro tip).

If you do go to dinner, you will have a conversation, which has a lot of permuatations. You may talk about or notice:
•   Your relationships with other women
•   Plans for Allison at the party or while you’re away with Annie. Allison may have different emotions about the party: nervous, excited, etc.
•   Renee being a hypnotherapist, and what to do about it (there are permutations here: need to be careful, turned on by it, etc). If Renee is (likely) exerting control of Allison, Allison will be uncomfortable learning this information; otherwise, she’ll merely be surprised.
•   Whether you can order Allison to fuck other people (this might only be if you’re both going to the party)
•   You may notice Allison’s attitude (calmer, softer, distant, etc)
•   What to do on the road trip (if you’re going)
•   Deciding to cancel the road trip and go to Dante and Renee’s party instead

When Allison clears dinner, pay careful attention to what she does and/or says, as this has a lot of permutations and clues you in to where her head’s at.

Sometimes, you will be able to have sex before dinner is even cleared; if you do, pay attention to what she says, as it’s an indication to her headspace and, also, what is ‘going on’ in your run.

One way or another, you will end by following Allison to bed.

(NOTE: You may notice the Troublesome Skirt, which miraculously replaces her pants from image to image. I’ve already flagged this to Daphne.)

SCARED ALLISON
In this version, Allison is aware that she’s being controlled somehow and wants to talk to you about it. Of the four possible states, this is the one with the most stuff in it.

Your first option will be to listen to her or to ask/order her for a blowjob or sex first. If you go for the blowjob or sex, in certain runs, she will be upset about this, and you’ll backpedal; in others, she’ll be upset but then fall under control and do what you ask. If you still have the blowjob voucher and use it here, she will have a very intense reaction to it. Pay attention to what she’s saying in this part, since it’s a clue as to where her headspace is at. She might be incredibly horny; she might beg you to come in her mouth, specifically; she might just obey; and you might feel like you own her cunt.

If you listen to her first and you are on a hypnosis path, she will first ask if you are doing something to her. You can either immediately hypnotize her, “unzip” and use your hypnotic cock if that’s on your run, or else listen to her confession. Non-hypnosis paths will skip this and go straight to the confession.

If you listen to her confession, she may first admit that she masturbated in an alley today. If you press for more information or if she doesn’t mention the alley, you get a MAJOR indication about what is ‘going on’ in your run; there are a LOT of permutations of this part of her confession. The confession is based on the type of MC happening.

IN GENERAL, SHE MIGHT MENTION:
•   Wanting to be your slave
•   Getting comfortable with you fucking other people
•   Having strange fantasies
o       Showing off her body; walking around naked
o       Becoming a maid, forgetting who she was
o       Becoming your full-time slave, maybe getting collared, maybe getting branded
o       Becoming a living fleshlight, just holes to fuck
o       Getting enormous fake tits
o       Being in a brainwashed harem
•   Getting so obsessed with sex it’s taking over her life
•   Getting into sex work (caming, etc)
•   Becoming obsessed with men coming in her mouth
HYPNOSIS
•   If you are the hypnotist, then she confesses thinking basically everything you’ve programmed her to
•   She says she hears a man’s voice which gets her turned on thinking about you
•   If you (later) talk about Annie, Allison wonders if you “pissed off a wizard,” and you say that Paula dumped a guy for you
SPELL
•   She will always confess thinking about Dante to the point of total obedience
•   She says she hears a woman’s voice and gets turned on thinking about being a sex-slave
•   If you (later) ask what you can do to help and you know Renee is a hypnotherapist, you’ll wonder if she’s hypnotizing her (I’m pretty sure this is a red herring on spell runs; I’d bet the “woman’s voice” she’s hearing is Lorelei, not Renee)
•   If you (later) talk about Annie, you’ll say you had suspicions about her fucking Dante and not telling you
BRAINWASHING
•   She’ll mention she’s had “missing time” (in the “alley” part of the confession)
•   She says she hears a man’s voice calling her ‘dumb cunt’ and ‘fuck-hole’
•   If you (later) talk about Annie, Allison wonders if you “pissed off a wizard," and you say that Paula dumped a guy for you

After hearing the confession, you have a couple options:
•   The same options as in the “Smiling Allison” section, with the same results
•   “Do you want to see a doctor?”: She will freak out at this suggestion (implying that she’s been MC’d to not go to a doctor about this)
•   “I have an idea”: You offer to do her “special thing” to her, promising, honest, not to do anything to her
•   “Ask Annie”: If you’re flying out to see Annie, you will mention that Annie had similar issues before you split, and offer to ask her about it
•   “Talk to Renee”: If you suspect that Renee might be doing something to Allison, you can offer to talk to her (note that this option doesn’t occur if Renee is MCing you)
•   “Are you still OK going to the party”: I think this only triggers if she’s going and you’re not (because you’re flying out to Annie); she will then show you her costume, segueing into the “Surprise Allison” state
•   “Maybe I can help” / “Relax. Breathe.”: Helpfully use MC to calm her down, reinforce her submission, and potentially (if you’ve done relatively little MC to other women in this chapter) program her sexuality (to love being a slut, or to not be attracted to other men, etc)
•   “It’s perfectly normal”: You try to convince her that her subconscious is just working through some stress
•   “Unzip”: Use your hypnocock

NOTE: In certain runs, you could potentially navigate from here to either the “Surprise Allison” or “Maid Allison” states

Eventually, your choices will either be to skip dinner to have sex right away (again, always better in real life, pro tip), or to have dinner first (terrible idea). If you do have dinner first, it generally follows the “Smiling Allison” dinner flow.

One way or another, you will end by following Allison to bed.

(NOTE: You may notice the Troublesome Skirt, which miraculously replaces her pants from image to image. I’ve already flagged this to Daphne.)

SURPRISE ALLISON
Allison will be poking her head around a doorframe and smiling; she says she has a surprise for you. She comes out with it a moment later: a costume! Costumes I’ve found so far:
•   Slave: If she’s on a sex-slave path, she will wear this. She may then kneel down and say she wants to make a “big change” (quit her job), after which she’ll ask to be your full-time slave and possibly whore.
•   Falsie Onesie: If this run is all about the boobs, she’ll be wearing a onesie with falsie-boobs. In certain runs, she will also take on a bimbo persona and dialect and even talk about going blonde to match.
•   Wifey: If she’s specifically going on a housewife (not maid) path, she’ll be wearing a polka-dot dress and indicate she wants to do this more often.
•   Leather: I think this might be the kind of ‘default’ costume, indicating sexiness, though whether that’s for you (and women of your choosing) or for general sluttiness depends on your run.

In pretty much all cases, you will tell her to wear that costume to the party (if that’s part of your run).

After, you more or less follow the “Smiling Allison” section above.

One way or another, you will end by following Allison to bed.

MAID ALLISON
If Allison is on a maid path, she will be in a maid uniform preparing dinner for you. While this is another costume, it’s a completely different flow with hugely different options, so I consider it a distinct state from the “Surprise Allison” state.

Your first option will be to fuck her immediately or have dinner first. If you fuck her first, pay attention to what she says, as this is an indication as to her headspace. Then you’ll have the option to come in her or get a blowjob; if you pick the blowjob, it reinforces her down the maid path further.

One way or another, you’ll have dinner with her. A LOT of permutations here. Everything from the “Smiling Allison” dinner conversation can come up here, but in addition:
•   She may call you either Monsieur, Monseigneur, or Maitre (I think in ascending order of submission to you)
•   She might simply sit down with you; otherwise, she’ll stand at attention while you eat (personal note: INJECT THIS IN MY VEINS), and you’ll have to tell her to sit with you; you may “wonder if” or be “sure that” she would have stood the whole time (continue to inject this in my veins)
•   She’ll have a French accent, but how long she stays with this accent varies depending on how far down the maid path she is
•   If you’re going to the party, you’ll order her to wear this uniform to it. If she’s far down the maid path, she’ll respond with, “It wouldn’t do to be without your servant.”

The BIG thing you’re looking for: how she talks about her day. This indicates how far down the maid path she is.
•   She may talk about her work day
•   She may claim she spent the whole day at home as your maid, indicating she’s losing her sense of identity, or else sinking completely into the role
•   THE BIG ONE: if she is VERY heavily MC’d, she may take on another persona altogether, complete with another name. The names appear to indicate a specific type of maid she’s becoming, though I’m not yet clear on what exactly.

Maid names I’ve found so far:
•   Veronique (the slutty one, I think?)
•   Sophie (the submissive one?)
•   Alis (a lover?)
•   Albertine (the slave?)
•   Madeleine
•   Marie

When she clears dinner, pay careful attention to what she does and/or says, as this has a lot of permutations and clues you in to where her head’s at.

You may then get an option to fuck before dinner is even cleared (if you didn’t just fuck her a second ago). If you do, pay attention to what she says, as it’s an indication to her headspace and, also, what is ‘going on’ in your run.

One way or another, you will end by following Allison (or Veronique, or Sophie, etc) to bed.
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« Reply #179 on: May 21, 2025, 10:02:45 pm »

There's also an extremely hot (and promising!?) interaction between you and Allison when talking about Renee being a hypnotherapist. If Tradwife Allison (with Huge Boobs) is going to the party alone, and concerns that Renee could turn her into a mindless slave, you will reassure that you've asked her (Renee) to turn Allison into a "docile, obedient STEPFORD wife", Allison would then (pretend to!?) act like a mindless and silly tradwife for a little bit.
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