Starter Marriage, Phase 3.

[Haight]

Does anyone know how to get Allison to mention being a sex slave when she's asleep on night 2? I did it once, I think, and don't remember how to make it happen.

[hereno]

I'm not sure a "full MC" playthrough is possible, in that some choices are mutually exclusive.

What I mean is a runthrough with Allison's "fantasy" ending. (Technically there are three fantasies, one each for brainwashing/hypnotism/spell... unless there are more I don't know about! But all three are pretty similar.)

[hereno]

Does anyone know how to get Allison to mention being a sex slave when she's asleep on night 2? I did it once, I think, and don't remember how to make it happen.

To get this with maid at least, you have to:

1. Fuck her all the way right at the beginning of the game
2. Stop and do "that thing she likes"
3. I always pick "cook naked," but for what you want, you might want one of the other options
4. "It's nothing important" for the text
5. Do *not* call or otherwise inform Allison about Annie before she falls asleep

[Haight]

Does anyone know how to get Allison to mention being a sex slave when she's asleep on night 2? I did it once, I think, and don't remember how to make it happen.

To get this with maid at least, you have to:

1. Fuck her all the way right at the beginning of the game
2. Stop and do "that thing she likes"
3. I always pick "cook naked," but for what you want, you might want one of the other options
4. "It's nothing important" for the text
5. Do *not* call or otherwise inform Allison about Annie before she falls asleep

I see that. I seem to remember you could get "sex slave" that early but maybe I'm misremembering.

[Haight]

What I mean is a runthrough with Allison's "fantasy" ending. (Technically there are three fantasies, one each for brainwashing/hypnotism/spell... unless there are more I don't know about! But all three are pretty similar.)

By "brainwashing/hypnotism/spell" do you mean breast enlargement, serve dinner naked, anal?

[jwik01]

I'm not sure a "full MC" playthrough is possible, in that some choices are mutually exclusive.

What I mean is a runthrough with Allison's "fantasy" ending. (Technically there are three fantasies, one each for brainwashing/hypnotism/spell... unless there are more I don't know about! But all three are pretty similar.)

This is one of those things that I hadn't realized I hadn't seen (despite spending way way too much time on this game)! But knowing it exists, I was able to find it. What I read, she didn't know or care what the source of the control was, whether it was hypnosis or a microchip in her brain or a spell.

[jwik01]

What I mean is a runthrough with Allison's "fantasy" ending. (Technically there are three fantasies, one each for brainwashing/hypnotism/spell... unless there are more I don't know about! But all three are pretty similar.)

By "brainwashing/hypnotism/spell" do you mean breast enlargement, serve dinner naked, anal?

Get her to declare herself your slave by the time you arrive at Dante and Renee's, then when you finger her at the end of chapter three ask her what she's thinking.  I also had Annie declare herself your slave, I dunno if that's necessary.

[jwik01]

Okay, so, having gone over every piece of this with I think a pretty fine-toothed comb....putting together all the info you can get out of Allison in the various permutations of the Girlfriend Experience...the story here is that there's an Evil Mind Controller out there, and years ago he targeted Annie, seduced her away from you, made her his sex slave. Then he got bored with her and decided to target Allison. Maybe because the EMC thought you had good taste? He's lost interest in Annie, he's now brainwashing Allison in secret. She doesn't want to commit to a trip on Friday because it would interfere with her brainwashing schedule, or because the EMC is planning to have her leave you this weekend. Speculation: if you do go visit Annie, when you get back Allison is going to be gone. Alternate possibility: the EMC repents of his ill treatment of you in stealing your wife, and has made a project of turning Allison into your personal fuckdoll as a way of making it up to you.  Alternate alternate possibility: the EMC is Dante, somehow, a guess I am making solely because he is the only male character in the game who isn't you and Daphne has a strong respect for story structure.

Edit to add: wait, no, I forgot to take into account how if you push strongly away from engaging with Annie or mind controlling Allison you get an end-of-game message that suggests that Allison's weird behavior blows over and you live some approximation of happily ever after. So unless the theory of the EMC being your secret patron is correct, which I didn't believe, I only threw it in as a joke...

[Haight]

Get her to declare herself your slave by the time you arrive at Dante and Renee's, then when you finger her at the end of chapter three ask her what she's thinking.  I also had Annie declare herself your slave, I dunno if that's necessary.

I got that. Will she declare herself your slave without necessitating that you're down to share her with Dante?

[jwik01]

I know under the right circumstances you can at least attempt to finger her into not wanting any other man, but on this particular playthrough the options I see are programming her to want to be your maid all the time, to want you to brainwash Annie into being a mindless slave, to tell you her fantasy (slash suppressed memory??), to being horny 24/7 with no downtime or off switch, and a series that goes exhibitionism --> porn --> stripping --> sleeping with whoever you tell her to --> prostitution, that you can jump off at any stage.  I've also seen "enormous/huge/Renee-sized boobs" as an option on other playthroughs. Probably others I can't think of right this second.

[tods1976]

Has anybody figured out a way to get Allison's "fantasy" response without your character being into hotwifing/sharing? The former doesn't seem like it should depend on the latter, but I cannot get it otherwise.

Basically: I'm trying to get a "full MC" run without sharing, but cannot for the life of me get that particular scenario to trigger.

What is the response?

I clearly haven’t explored everything because  I haven’t managed to really get to what I’d think of as “full MC” for any character.  I’ve gotten Allison and Annie wanting to role play as fuckdolls/slaves; the special technique in part 1 and part 3 (with success but but no follow through yet on a couple options); and Lorelei and Renee to talk about brainwashing, but that’s about it.

I tend to be transparent with Allison about Annie (whether I’m going or ignoring her) so I wonder if I need to mix that up.

[Daphne]

Will she declare herself your slave without necessitating that you're down to share her with Dante?

Yes, that's possible.

[hereno]

By "brainwashing/hypnotism/spell" do you mean breast enlargement, serve dinner naked, anal?

So, this is fairly subtle, but it is threaded throughout the game what type of mind control is happening. This is referenced in possible conversations with Lorelai, Renee, and Allison (that I am aware of, there may be more).

I am about 99% certain this is determined by how you respond to Annie in your very first text exchange with her. You can tell by the image that appears on your phone.

• Collar -> Brainwashing
• Apron -> Spell
• Alley -> Hypnotism

This will also slightly alter Allison's "fantasy" scenario, to reinforce the style of MC story we're getting (brainwashing = objectification, spell = forced romance, hypnotism = trancey fun times).

[Haight]

By "brainwashing/hypnotism/spell" do you mean breast enlargement, serve dinner naked, anal?

So, this is fairly subtle, but it is threaded throughout the game what type of mind control is happening. This is referenced in possible conversations with Lorelai, Renee, and Allison (that I am aware of, there may be more).

I am about 99% certain this is determined by how you respond to Annie in your very first text exchange with her. You can tell by the image that appears on your phone.

• Collar -> Brainwashing
• Apron -> Spell
• Alley -> Hypnotism

This will also slightly alter Allison's "fantasy" scenario, to reinforce the style of MC story we're getting (brainwashing = objectification, spell = forced romance, hypnotism = trancey fun times).

Huh, this is nice. I'll look into it.

[hereno]

Okay, so, having gone over every piece of this with I think a pretty fine-toothed comb....putting together all the info you can get out of Allison in the various permutations of the Girlfriend Experience...the story here is that there's an Evil Mind Controller out there, and years ago he targeted Annie, seduced her away from you, made her his sex slave. Then he got bored with her and decided to target Allison. Maybe because the EMC thought you had good taste? He's lost interest in Annie, he's now brainwashing Allison in secret. She doesn't want to commit to a trip on Friday because it would interfere with her brainwashing schedule, or because the EMC is planning to have her leave you this weekend. Speculation: if you do go visit Annie, when you get back Allison is going to be gone. Alternate possibility: the EMC repents of his ill treatment of you in stealing your wife, and has made a project of turning Allison into your personal fuckdoll as a way of making it up to you.  Alternate alternate possibility: the EMC is Dante, somehow, a guess I am making solely because he is the only male character in the game who isn't you and Daphne has a strong respect for story structure.

Edit to add: wait, no, I forgot to take into account how if you push strongly away from engaging with Annie or mind controlling Allison you get an end-of-game message that suggests that Allison's weird behavior blows over and you live some approximation of happily ever after. So unless the theory of the EMC being your secret patron is correct, which I didn't believe, I only threw it in as a joke...

The trick here is that the facts of what is happening are themselves quite malleable. Like... are you having an affair with Lorelai, or not? That's a fact that will change based on your decisions. As I said below, even the type of MC happening is malleable.

So I don't think there's "one true plot" happening. There's probably a bunch of different possibilities. Remember, you can tell Lorelai that you are the one doing the mind controlling (my preferred route) (this is one of the ways to determine what type of MC is happening).