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Title: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Daphne on January 15, 2015, 04:58:51 pm
Friday, January 16th.

(http://cnt1.dvvent.com/dvv/open/mcc/sji/promos/sji-i366.jpg)


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: jmundt29 on January 15, 2015, 05:25:35 pm
Erin and Cait wheedling Jo-Jo while...what is happening elsewhere?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: laguna85 on January 16, 2015, 12:14:47 am
who doing what and have fun!
Sex fun!!!!


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Haight on January 16, 2015, 01:06:26 am
I'd *really* like to know what Dani is telling Ein right now...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: jmundt29 on January 16, 2015, 06:10:38 am
I think the instruction/explanation part could have happened earlier.  Why couldn't she be enjoying the view or encouraging Ein?;)


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Haight on January 16, 2015, 10:42:29 am
Also, I know Daphne says her name's not that big a deal, but the point at which the font you're using for lettering can't handle Ein's name, that's when you need to reconsider.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: mns_95125 on January 16, 2015, 11:44:53 am
Danielle is still holding the pendant where Ein can see it.  To me that implies that programming is still taking place.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: GodWilling on January 16, 2015, 12:20:41 pm
Einfríður holds a gun with her right hand but masturbates with her left. The pendant is in someone's right hand - I'm not sure it isn't hers. If it isn't then I'm just going to have to imagine her right hand is in a very similar place to where her left is.

This is the first time we've seen the pendant crystal not looking kind of bluey. Even cupped in people's hands it has looked that way. Now suddenly it seems to be showing the flesh colours from its surroundings. I thought at first it was the broken watch, but it doesn't have the hoop at the top.

I wish Erin had healed Einfríður.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Haight on January 16, 2015, 02:25:27 pm
You know now that you mention it, it's hard to tell but it looks like Ein is hypnotizing herself.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Daphne on January 16, 2015, 02:33:23 pm
Einfríður holds a gun with her right hand but masturbates with her left.

She's not the only one.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: GodWilling on January 16, 2015, 02:48:29 pm
She's not the only one.

I should point out it's not the safest way to masturbate. But yeah, I wasn't suggesting an inconsistency; it just seemed relevant to the question of whose right hand that is. I actually suspect it's supposed to be Dani's - not least because if she were going to have Einfríður hold the pendant, I'd have thought she'd be doing something we could see with her own hands. But it's not unpleasant to imagine that it's Einfríður's hand.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: GodWilling on January 16, 2015, 03:43:53 pm
Going back to the previous episode, when Dani says (by extension) that she too tries to make her boss's life pleasant, are we sure we know which boss she means?

It seems like Einfríður is to Johannes as Dani was to Jakob. And the similarity between the two women is presumably not entirely coincidental. I'd maybe have expected Jakob's, er, right-hand woman to have dark hair and an air of maniacal menace, but maybe that would have been taking things too far. This probably makes more sense.

Whatever Dani is up to, it definitely seems more like re-orientation than interrogation. And thus far it looks like she's doing it without the others' knowledge. So, yes, I'd like to know what she's saying. But I must say I hope that's Erin who's coming up to check on them, and I hope the crystal works on her, even if it only means she comes away thinking nothing amiss is going on. But it'll probably turn out that every woman in the house knows what's going on.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: laguna85 on January 16, 2015, 04:06:56 pm
you think that woman in the house Knows what going on that bedroom, Oh yes
Like doctor was take over in the hypnotize by him but Danielle is doing it.



Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Tony on January 16, 2015, 08:06:03 pm

It seems like Einfríður is to Johannes as Dani was to Jakob. ...

Whatever Dani is up to, it definitely seems more like re-orientation than interrogation.

I think the pop up text would lead us to believe that Erin already knows and would be in charge anyway.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: jmundt29 on January 16, 2015, 10:07:05 pm
And that pop-up text is?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: kmorea on January 16, 2015, 10:55:25 pm
And that pop-up text is?

"Just do what Erin wants. it's much easier that way."

BTW, should I point out that either the punctuation is wrong in that title, or the capitalization is? It should be either:

"Just do what Erin wants, it's much easier that way."

or

"Just do what Erin wants. It's much easier that way."

:-)


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Haight on January 17, 2015, 12:36:15 am
Einfríður holds a gun with her right hand but masturbates with her left.

She's not the only one.

Everyone needs a sinister hand from time to time...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: GodWilling on January 17, 2015, 01:17:14 am
I'd taken the pop-up text to refer to Johannes being persuaded to stay. Although it's an interesting idea, it would be odd if the pop-up reflected what Dani is saying. Fictional mind control doesn't usually run along the cajoling lines of: "I am your master and you will do my bidding without question. And besides, you never know, you might like it."


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: jmundt29 on January 17, 2015, 06:40:29 am
But isn't that the heart of the SJI pitch and programming as opposed to what the Kupplers and others do with the same items?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: GodWilling on January 17, 2015, 06:59:49 am
I don't recall such sub-clauses during the watch programming.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: jmundt29 on January 17, 2015, 12:01:48 pm
But the procedure on the Night of the Watch was mostly left over from Jakob's training.  Within the SJI harem, the programming functions with the subclause implied   That's the way Adrian runs things.  On his dates with the new additions, it's about fantasy fulfillment, theirs and his.  Maybe the programming for future members is shifting subtly as Dani gets used to Adrian's...preferences.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: Haight on January 17, 2015, 12:45:25 pm
I kind of imagine that the watch can *implant* fantasies, though, so it may be moot.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: GodWilling on January 17, 2015, 05:37:14 pm
Try this for moot: "You will obey Erin because if you don't she'll make you do it anyway."


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 366: Making Arrangements.
Post by: hypnonile on January 19, 2015, 08:40:19 pm
High-Five to everyone involved in the making of that last panel!