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Title: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Daphne on October 27, 2013, 10:55:57 am
Tuesday, October 29th!


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 27, 2013, 11:17:01 am
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: laguna85 on October 29, 2013, 12:36:24 am
My thinking is that Cherry and Rain are sister and Cherry is tell Rain her time is running out
That Cherry going take control.
So Rain think that Adrian is to soft guy to be head of harem


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: jmundt29 on October 29, 2013, 02:31:18 am
Note attached to sinister clock says what?  This is our best indication yet (and first absolutely undeniable one) that Adrian and the harem might be well and truly on their own in a war between a lot of sinister opposing forces:

The Kuplers, Q, Claudia, ol' Sam, and Cherry and her menacing partner.

Maybe no one is a reliable ally for the SJI crew.  Deconstructionism rears its ugly head.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Werdna on October 29, 2013, 07:39:41 am
A few things spring to mind, most notably (as jmundt already asked), what the hell does that note say?  Also, the iconography of the item itself:  Atlas holds up a clock instead of the planet.  I've never seen that depiction, yet it has pretty strong meaning for Rain.  (And yes, I know Atlas held up the sky, but he frequently has been depicted as the support mechanism for the planet instead.)

More evidence that Rain is, in fact, the same person as in the strips from the 17th Century; enough for me now to feel comfortable in my assumption that that's the case.

Interesting that she should be talking to the portrait of Rochester - is this just her way of thinking things through, or is there something mystical going on there?

Lastly, her assessment of Adrian seems sadly accurate so far; although he did handle Derek pretty well (twice!), he has been pretty passive since then.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: laguna85 on October 29, 2013, 08:26:11 am
can not hold up time  :D


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Haight on October 29, 2013, 09:44:54 am
So the 'bad guys' know about Rain, too, huh?  Interesting.

And here's hoping Adrian gets more proactive.  More proactive about protecting the girls, more proactive about adding new girls to his harem, more proactive about playing the part of the harem's Master...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: peers on October 29, 2013, 09:52:54 am
The pop-up text in this one is rather ominous...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: jmundt29 on October 29, 2013, 10:37:23 am
I suppose, but Rain's facial controtions (even before she opens the taunting gag gift) are disturbing in their own right.

I'm going to go on record and say that I think Rain underestimates Adrian pretty badly here.

He handled Derek, yes, but he's also handled Yves and has bent his strength and other powers to caring for and buoying all the members of his harem.  He's taking Rain's advice seriously, but he's applying it in his own way--so, while he does demonstrate strength, it's not of the sort that she's used to or would expect.  I think and hope that that will eventually work in his favor in ways she isn't seeing.

I think the gift is from Cherry's handler, but I don't think it's an Atlas clock, I think it might be a Prometheus clock.

By the by, do we know what language Cherry and the driver are speaking?  It might give us a clue as to where the Driver is from.

I think he's more proactive and effective about protection of the girls than outside observers (including Rain) think.

I will only concur in one of three.  I hope that his brand of stewardship is shown to be effective for protection and nurturing and that he decides to allow harem expansion through benevolence, rather than rapaciousness or greed.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 29, 2013, 11:52:06 am
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: jmundt29 on October 29, 2013, 12:16:04 pm
So, the clock and note are a Kupler statement from Dad or the surviving brother...or maybe the brother who's presumed dead, but has come back like Jason to terrorize everone?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 29, 2013, 12:27:22 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Werdna on October 29, 2013, 01:08:56 pm
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Just as an initial response, we have already seen such a clock in 151 - although it's very much hidden there...

Wow, good catch.  Well done.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: laguna85 on October 29, 2013, 04:43:36 pm
The note appears to be signed "J", which doesn't help in narrowing down the Kuppler brother.

But then maybe it's for John. Is it a John Wilmot quote?
also may be for Jakob or Johannes
from guest page 14
you are right that doesn't help in narrowing down the kuppler brother and father


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 30, 2013, 02:33:57 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Daphne on October 30, 2013, 02:36:08 pm
I had thought that the first word was "My"

That is correct.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 30, 2013, 02:45:56 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Daphne on October 30, 2013, 02:49:53 pm
But I can't see a fit for the second word.

Well, I'll say that it is English, and there are no characters that are not the basic Latin alphabet in it.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: peers on October 30, 2013, 02:54:12 pm
Hmm. If we allow that the writer might be using antique penmanship, then the second word might be "regards," with a Seventeenth Century style final "s."


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 30, 2013, 03:16:57 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 30, 2013, 03:21:34 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Werdna on October 30, 2013, 04:20:40 pm
I independently (I swear!) got "My regards to your father".

Atlas' daughters-lots of good stories there.  Calypso's is tragic.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 30, 2013, 04:36:51 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: jmundt29 on October 30, 2013, 04:49:55 pm
So, the Driver is Greek?  Does he have a mythological connection as well.  I can't imagine an ordinary Joe or Derek having stones like that.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 30, 2013, 05:35:39 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Daphne on October 30, 2013, 06:08:37 pm
"My regards to your father" is correct... congratulations!


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: Werdna on October 31, 2013, 07:20:01 am
OK, one mystery solved, several dozen more initiated.  Ain't that always the case with SJI.   :)

I've been going over the whole run of SJI and one motif that is pretty constant is that clocks and timing -more than the watch, I mean - do seem to recur frequently, though I wonder if that's just a practical visual way of situating the reader temporally for any given strip.

Godwilling, thanks for the bit about the Hyades - I had completely forgotten about them.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: GodWilling on October 31, 2013, 11:56:05 am
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 236: It's the Thought.
Post by: jmundt29 on October 31, 2013, 07:19:50 pm
Well, we have a couple important timepieces floating around (the watch housing that The Driver now has) and the belltower.  The Kuplers started as watchmakers.  I don't know if the actual time that this incident occured is significant, though.  Refresh my memory, do we have the name of a delivery woman already?  The shipment to the grocery store was in a Princess Pink van, but I could have sworn we'd seen a gal driving a brownish delivery truck before this.