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So what Mallory come with?

that we go back with Caitlyn and see how high that her spirts can fly

Wait, is Yves innocent in all this?  Really?

Some of his lines to Q suggest he doesn't want attention from the powers that be. Q, on the other hand, he may have a score to settle. He strikes me as something of a chess master. Alex thinks it was Yves who delivered the goods. Who's to say Q didn't tell Alex to remember Yves delivering the product?

So Alex is run back to find that PC sample

Ah ha.  That makes more sense...even though it doesn't make actual sense yet.  That sudden stop exclamation has been used twice now for PC programming, so I thought she had just gotten a "SCAT!!" command activated.  However, Yves seems puzzled at this point, not like he's trying to lay on a weak Jedi mind trick.  So, there are a few possibilities.

1. Yves is a better actor than I would have given him credit for and he's genuinely trying to lay down misdirection.  OR

2. Whoever made the delivery and gave Alex the sample included leaving with Yves as part of her programming and made her believe that Yves had been her facilitator.  Is Q even more insidious and much more effective than we thought?

Something about this doesn't add up at all.

If Yves didn't deliver the PC and lay down Alex's programming, what did he think was happening in the booth?  If Yves didn't set the programming, why did Alex and Katie gravitate toward Yves' car?  Or is that not even Yves' car?  Is it Alex's and Yves is now thinking of leaving a different way?  That would give Jacqui the chance to discover Alex and Adrian at least some small space of time to try to intervene here.  I feel like there's another player besides The Watchmakers' rogue coven (and various competent/incompetent subordinates); The Princess Pink duo (Q and Yves) and Rain who's making a play here with more information than just about anyone (except maybe Rain) has.  I just can't see the board yet.

Q doesn't strike me as an "evil chessmaster" type.  He's smart, but not supervillain smart.  He's effective and opportunistic, but not a mastermind.  And the person moving pieces right now seems to have more information than Q could possibly have right now if he/she orchestrated the three-pronged attack.  Run over Dani.  Use Yves as a delaying tactic and/or a distraction at Sawyer's, and attack the SJI directly.  That just doesn't seem like Q to me.

ok My think is that Yves was going to the club and have fun with Katie (sji-I211) he was look for her.

So who did the deliver and lay down the hypno program on Alex to take the sample and use it on Katie.
This person know that Yves will be at the club ?
But Alex want sex with katie and leaving the man without sex, But it was Caitlyn in the booth and had the dance with Yves.
Yves think that Caitlyn is another dancer.
Alex had a great time her life and when to the car to thank Yves for the deliver and Pink Cloud sample

Three basic possibilities.

1.  Yves is telling the truth.  Somebody else gave Alex the Pink Clouds and made her think it was Yves.  The questions then would be who and why.  Q seems like the only obvious candidate on the board but I don't get the motive.

2.  Yves is knowingly lying.  He gave Alex the Pink Clouds and is now denying having done so to her face.  Again, the question is why.  Here I have a theory.  Yves doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would have an easy time picking up hot chicks on his own, but his earlier remark to Q about "staying clean" in the face of Pink Clouds suggests a prior run-in with the law.  Perhaps he's setting Alex up as the fall-girl.  Give her the Pink Clouds and send her to reclaim her ex-girlfriend, but with additional programming to only do the spray when she's with another girl, and to leave the empty container behind.  Then Yves swoops in and uses the Pink Clouds trance to pick up the other girl while Alex is left nicely framed for anyone who investigates.

3.  Yves is lying but doesn't know it because his own memory has been modified by someone.  Again, who and why?

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I think about it that what if Hans turn on the tape that play suggestion "Anything he wants"
after talk to Sawyer

I know that the timeline in each episode is hard to tell.

PS
No writing and spell problem

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I...well, if Sawyer proves to be benevolent and Hans is loyal to him, Hans finding the Watch housing is, perhaps, a relief.  But he'd have had to book it in both directions and he'd have had to pass Adrian on a two-lane at a high rate of speed to go out to the accident, retrieve the Watch after Adrian and Jacqui passed, beat them to Sawyer's and then get all the way to SJI during Katie's first dance.  That strains credibility.

If Yves is "innocent," I can't figure out how or why Caitlyn was targeted since not even Caitlyn knew she was going to be at Sawyer's when Alex got her imprint.

I think I garbled my first post.  At first glance, I mistook Alex's sudden stop (her double take when she realized her vial of PC was gone) for another instance of imprinting.  Remember, I'm new to the convention of that marking.

Yves' mind could be clouded by any of several stimulants floating around Kearsage, but PC itself has no effect on men.  So, if Yves provided the PC and doesn't remember because his mind has been clouded, it would have to have been the belltower.  This seems unlikely.

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If he's subliminally recruiting strippers and had Hans run over Dani...or somebody in the SJI...he would seem far from benevolent and might be the actual charismatic villain of this piece--we haven't seen one apepar yet.

The villain of this piece is clearly monogamy.

But is that concept a charismatic villain?  We have villains--malicious, malevolent, occasionally bumbling adversaries for the SJI.  But we haven't met someone with charisma opposing the SJI.  Intimidation factor isn't the same as charisma.

No spoilers!

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Doesn't this forum have a filter for that kind of language?

On my theory (2) above, Caitlyn wasn't targeted per se.  She just happened to be the hot girl with Katie when Alex made her move.

Lol

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I have no idea exactly what's been happening for the past few issues, so I will refrain from commenting directly other than to say I look forward to figuring out what has already happened by seeing what happens next.

I do, however, need to comment on one statement made here


I refer you to issue #115.

The cubicle or booth seat and seat back are same or different
 207, 209 from 211- 212-213 and last 214

The booth in which Caitlyn was entertaining Yves is not the same booth in which Katie was entertaining Caitlyn.

and computer screen #53

sorry miss read
so diffenent booth

No. The booth that Yves walked into was not the same booth that Katie took Caitlyn to.

Obscure detail question:  is the car with the brake lights on in panel 2 Jacqui's, as seen from a similar angle in issue #206?

I ask because I'm trying to get a sense of who's where and how they've been moving around at Sawyer's.  The entire sequence has involved a lot of people moving around to a bunch of different places.

No, Jacqui's not in her car in #216.

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Heh! No, it was one of those things that was never intended to be complex, so no reason not to confirm it.

I also thank you for the clarification
my thinking was the same booth
wrong.

I thought Jacqui seeing the booth empty but for the bottle of Pink Clouds was an indication that Yves had finished his session and taken Caitlyn off the premises.  I didn't realize that he spirited her away from Katie's initial cubicle.  Odd.

On the charismatic villain(ess) thing--Claudia Coulbeck was an excellent candidate and back when we thought she might be the mistress/owner of the New York Harem and the Watch, she would have fit beautifully.  As a member of the harem who is merely pursuing her own limited agenda away from the Kuplers--she's just as much victim as villain (or appears to be so to me at this juncture).

I think it's more likely that Alex moved her to a different cubicle where Yves then found her.  Caitlyn dropped the squid before she got moved, which is why it was in the initial cubicle along with the used bottle of Pink Clouds.

Makes sense--and would indicate that what Caitlyn was hearing could easily have been piped in (if, say, that was Sawyer's "conditioning booth" for new talent), but it would seem to be a waste of time.

Think about it--if Alex's absolutely singular goal is Katie and reigniting "the spark" between them, why would she care about moving Caitlyn to a new booth?  It's more conspicuous to lug a dancer and a patron around and then lug the dancer around.  Dose, program, and whisk Katie to an unoccupied booth where you won't be interrupted.  If she was getting off on the power, why not keep Caitlyn around and share her with Katie after the reconciliation is complete.  The route she actually chose is inefficient, requires more effort and more delay (and she's not big on delayed gratification), and runs a greater risk of discovery.

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Remains to be seen.  Do we have a title for 217?

Yes.