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Coming Friday, March 29th!

I hope this is the splash-page immediate follow-up to the previous issue, but it could also be something to do with Claudia (and/or El Magnifico) or it could be Rain pulling strings to reveal that Adrian is indeed the reincarnation of John Wilmot (for a Zero Hour type reveal).

And now the title is really a cause for concern.  Is it something they say to Dani to get her out of her flashback, or is it a description of her state?  Is she finally emerging from her layers upon layers upon layers of control and modification to be horrified about something?

Wait, is this performance night at Sawyer's?

Also, about the sattelites comment?  Does she just mean socially she was the queen bee before she got to Wilmot...or did she have...open relationships with her partners at Wilmot? ???

She's used to having boys orbit her, if you will. Not having Adrian manhandling her at every opportunity is bringing forth some aspects of self-doubt and worry that she isn't good enough/attractive enough to lock his attention onto her like she used to back in the day.

At least that's my interpretation.

Danielle another flash back like in guest artsis 3 or that clock tower is get to her too.
 

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Danielle is, as far as we know, the only person who has been subjected to Watch programming on behalf of more than one master.  We have some reason to think that the Watch is not capable of undoing its own work -- if it were, Adrian would likely have used it to manumit the harem by now.  I think it's likely that Danielle's flashbacks are a result of mental stress caused by conflicting Watch programming.  If so, they're likely to get worse until the contradiction is somehow resolved.  This is likely to require learning a lot more about where the Watch came from and how it works.

Saving Danielle from a psychological breakdown seems like the sort of thing that would get Adrian moving aggressively into the controller underground.  It hits him smack dab on his sense of responsibility.

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We don't really know Zenon's motivation or competence yet.  Is there a gifted doctor in him somewhere who would embrace the challenge and the almost sacred duty of helping Dani rebuild herself, or is he a mercenary, or worse, a hack with a knack for hypnosis?

Dani now has a tail and whiskers,  Wait and see.

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It might not even take that much.  If Dani is perceived as sick she could easily wind up at Student Health where Xenon could find her, even if she isn't explicitly being taken to him.

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We seem to have wandered a bit, but I don't know if we're all addressing the same question.

GW is skeptical that Adrian has any altruistic motives, so I assume his question that touched off this branch of discussion was at least partially sarcastic.

However, we seem to be looking at different parts of the issue.

mns and I are positing that helping Dani heal psychologically is something Adrian would try to address because he cares for her.  It's possible that he might refer her back to Student health for treatment simply beause that's the only local option, but I thought the question was "Could or would Zenon help a patient  in need without booby-trapping the treatment?"

Also, Zenon isn't a GP, he's the psych services wing of the Health Center.

I'm not sure whose gatekeeper Marliese is, if she is one.  The SJI harem isn't organized into defined roles, and we really don't have her relationship to Rain nailed down yet, or how many layers and facets Rain's plan has.

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Especially since Zenon was plan A back in the mid-60s issues when Adrian was trying to get Dani to remember how to operate The Watch so she could deprogram the rest of the SJI residents (and significant others).

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Maybe not.  You never know if Derek the Moron might not have been called in for an emergency and what that might have meant for his victims.

It occurs to me that we actually have a pretty limited basis for thinking of Claudia as bad.  She's clearly one of the antagonists, but we don't really know her motivations.  It's possible that she wants the watch so that she can free herself and the remainder of the NY harem from Jakob Kuppler's left-over commands.  Were that the case I'd find her a pretty sympathetic character, really.

I suppose that's true.  She could be the ultimate Jessica Rabbit:

"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way."

Most of what we hold against her is her black leather outfit which is a fetching but imposing dominatrix look, and her choice of agents, Derek the Moron has proven himself to be a selfish, ignorant asshole.  However, there is one thing to be aware of that tolls against the heroine read.  She fully enjoys having topless lingeried servants, including Echo and that STUNNING platnium blonde whose name escapes me at the moment.  Her relish for such advantages doesn't square with someone looking to free herself and the NY Harem of Jakob the Liar's commands.  It looks like she genuinely fears him and genuinely wants her freedom, but she wants freedom to enjoy dominance of the New York Harem, not to liberate its members.  Issue 115 for reference.

ETA--I looked it up.  The platinum blonde is Meghan.

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Playing devil's advocate, here's an alternate interpretation: Perhaps Claudia's authority over the NY harem is, at this point, strictly derivative of Jakob's.  She's in charge only insofar as she can keep the rest of the harem believing that she's acting on Jakob's behalf.  If that's the case, her ability to make obvious changes in harem behavior would be limited -- she might never know when an order would be in conflict with one Jakob gave to another harem member.  For all we know, Jakob told Echo and Meghan to never wear anything but lingerie, and Claudia can't override that.  If that's the case, better to use them to impress Derek the Minion than leave them locked in a closet.  (Come to think of it, Claudia's apparent inability to change out of her dominatrix outfit would be consistent with that.)

The best (perhaps only) way to avoid such standing-order land mines would be to make no changes.  Claudia has to look like the harem dominant... but that doesn't necessarily mean she enjoys it.

This is going be great and see Jacquelyn get a dinner date. (window 2)
Will PEARL / MIRIAM Stop the dating?
That right there is a restraining order on PEARL / MIRIAM
Very old woman with young man Himm.
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Okay, the part I can answer--The restraining order was filed by Pearl AGAINST Jacqui not the other way around.

We could claim she's stuck, but again I don't get the sense of a poker face during Debriefing 2.  We get a sense of a mask when Derek reports in from inside the Den of Nightmares, but not before.  We'll have to wait for more of an explanation.

I think it was probably the other way round; Jacqui's line in #85 was: "Most parents get visitation rights.  I took out a restraining order."

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Jacqui's remark about the order could be read either way, but if she really had an effective RO against Pearl why would Pearl just stroll into Deep Black Vinyl asking to see her.  Not legal.  Additionally, in their conference over coffee to set things up, why would Jacqui as the aggrevied party, the one seeking protection have to modify her supply routes for the comfort of the person who has to abide by the RO.  No, it looks like either Pearl or her father got the restraining order against Jacqui.

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Yes, to restrain them, not yourself.  The negotiation had Jacqui giving Pearl's residence hall a 100 foot space, staying away from her domicile.  If the restraining order had been against Pearl, she wouldn't have been allowed to just walk into her mother's place of business.

Could be.

Her sarcasm is very blunt, but I didn't get the sense it was that blunt.  Sorry, I was confused.