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Title: Saint James Infirmary Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Daphne on September 20, 2012, 03:55:51 pm
Art by Montalis! Coming Saturday, September 22nd.


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 20, 2012, 08:08:17 pm
Which MCC series has Montalis worked on before?


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Daphne on September 20, 2012, 08:15:36 pm
Which MCC series has Montalis worked on before?

Checkered Past. I'm really impressed by his work on this page.


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: laguna85 on September 21, 2012, 03:28:10 am
SO who farther Who


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 21, 2012, 08:02:55 am
Tough to tell what this is.  The single word title doesn't provide many clues.  It could be information on Erin and her ex (why they broke up, what he was driven to), it could be learning dark secrets about Q and Yves, it could be the breakup that forced Adrian to hit the road, or it could be New York Harem history (how Claudia assumed control of things after Dani and the Watch left).  It could even be past interactions between Dani and Claudia.


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: GodWilling on September 21, 2012, 02:09:33 pm
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Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 21, 2012, 06:29:05 pm
I just had a very disturbing thought.  Farther could refer to Q-Box's last birthday request of Kanti that night fueled by the power of sample #49.  Each request pushes her a little farther outside her comfort zone.  Ugh. >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Prezfevr18 on September 22, 2012, 12:51:52 am
Changeling the Dreaming... really?  So this flashback takes place in the 90s?


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Daphne on September 22, 2012, 04:24:23 am
Changeling the Dreaming... really?  So this flashback takes place in the 90s?

Hey, I was playing Changeling in the late 2000s... (But top marks for spotting the cover design.)


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 22, 2012, 04:52:36 am
So, this is Erin's crew from Missouri?  She was a D&D...afficianado and...actress back home?  Hmm.

Can you explain who the rest of the crew are?

Also, it appears from this little flashback that whoever Erin emasculated before Adrian showed up, the miscreant must have deserved it, because she seems able to thrive in many environments.

Interesting mix of reactions to the news.  Nouveaux intellectual with the beard looks surprised.  Ponytailed, bespectacled scienctist looks upset, blackshirt looks amused, but the blonde looks horrified.  Did she have the same problem Raven has now (or did until about 45 seconds ago)?


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Daphne on September 22, 2012, 05:06:50 am
Can you explain who the rest of the crew are?

Only to say that this is the first time we've seen them.


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: GodWilling on September 22, 2012, 05:51:04 am
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Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 22, 2012, 06:37:56 am
I can understand thinking that about the guys, maybe (particularly, Smirking Blackshirt, and Nouveaux Intellectual) but...well, I guess we need more information.  Although, if the blonde did have an unresolved crush, maybe it explains Erin keeping her distance from Raven before now.*shrugs*


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: powerpossum on September 22, 2012, 09:05:08 am
- and no disrespect to anyone whose life is there on the page - but if I'd fallen in with that crowd my guiding principle would be: you can't choose your friends but you can run as far away as possible and pretend you never knew them.

*Narrows eyes* Roll for initiative.


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: mns_95125 on September 22, 2012, 11:47:22 am
*Narrows eyes* Roll for initiative.

Yeah, what he said.

Hmm... not sure if this is due to the different artist or a real thing, but does Erin seem a bit less... endowed... in this flashback?  We do have some evidence, per #100/104, that breast growth is not unknown among those who come to attend the college.  Which, come to think of it, could have *really* interesting implications for Pearl...


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Prezfevr18 on September 22, 2012, 03:21:07 pm
Changeling the Dreaming... really?  So this flashback takes place in the 90s?

Hey, I was playing Changeling in the late 2000s... (But top marks for spotting the cover design.)

I bought a copy of the first printing when it initially came out.  However, I just wanted it for the setting material as the idea of playing a six year old in the OWoD really creeped me out.  For real accuracy half the pages should be spilling out of the hardcover because WW's glue and bindings were and still are so pathetically cheap and shoddy.


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Daphne on September 22, 2012, 03:23:28 pm
However, I just wanted it for the setting material as the idea of playing a six year old in the OWoD really creeped me out.

I think it's safe to say that everyone was playing characters their own age in that game...


Title: Re: Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: lion93 on September 24, 2012, 11:31:29 pm
Changeling the Dreaming... really?  So this flashback takes place in the 90s?

Hey, I was playing Changeling in the late 2000s... (But top marks for spotting the cover design.)

So have you tried Lost yet?  It's a bit... darker.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: Werdna on September 25, 2012, 10:25:06 am
The thing that struck me about this episode is just how relaxed and happy Erin seemed in this flashback.  If you compare her here to her introduction as a really angry, bitchy drunk in the first few issues, I wonder what must have happened in the intervening time period to make her so angry.

Of course, she could just be hiding her issues here, and that could be the reason she's going.  But her friends seem genuinely distressed at the news that she's leaving for Wilmot, which would tend to indicate she's actually normally happy.

So: what did happen to give her the perma-frown prior to her exposure to the watch?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 25, 2012, 11:00:39 am
The mystery guy she traumatized actually traumatized her more?  The theory's been advanced that Erin is/was very much like a young Jacqui--or that Jacqui is Erin matured.  Also, bear in mind, she's a grad student.  That snapshot we got could be five/six years ago.  It could be that her interpersonal experiences as an undergrad made her defensive and that her general attitude was her starter version of the "Ravella black wall."  However, it is interesting to contemplate.  Maybe we'll get hints of those events as we move forward.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: GodWilling on September 25, 2012, 12:00:05 pm
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Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: jmundt29 on September 26, 2012, 08:17:38 pm
Maybe just that Erin has come farther than we thought?  She doesn't appear to be fleeing a negative situation or really bored with anything except Missouri weather.  It does show that she can adapt rather easily to several environments and that her interests are varied.  It would also seem to indicate that anyone who caused her to form a protective wall of snark and venom around herself would be truly worthy of censure and ridicule.  Beyond that?  I don't know how much we can know without investigating her Missouri circle (including snarky blackshirt) more closely.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary Guest Page 2: Farther
Post by: GodWilling on September 27, 2012, 12:34:30 pm
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