Mind Control Comics Forum

So, we haven't done much with traditional superhero comics. Thoughts?

I voted that it's MC so it's all good. I'd rather it only be an occasional comic or maybe as a single ongoing series. I still prefer more or less "human" characters where possible.

I went for the middle option--it is a big turnon for me, but it's well-covered in other sites I go to. I certainly wouldn't object to them, but I'm not desperate to see them.

I did middle Option, I know of two hypnosis comics Just do that and post two to four time a week. sometime five
One have Three writer, two artist another one have nine writer and eight artsis.
One web site got out of hypno superhero and now just superhero

I thing there are a lot more Web site Just do superhero 

I'm all for heroines and mind control myself.

So, who are these sites with all the MC superheroine content? :)  (I know about MCComix, of course.)

branch off there is  Metrobay Comix on  Erotic Illusions Where Finister Foul live
He or she start up about 10 week ago to or three month.

There is one more hipcomix branch off Drake AT Medusariffic

Prime Mover

One of the reasons I like this site is that it has non-supers. I like MCComix for that.
But I wouldn't mind seeing a series here based on that since these are hand drawn so that is another flavor.
I like the magic and science used here.
Would like more FF though. Corruption rather than control too.

I'm conflicted.  I love it when it's MC of established superherions or supervillaness (such as HMB Beyond Rubies teasers featuring Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Poision Ivy, and Catwoman) but I just can't seem to get into origenal superheros.  The only way I can see to remidy this is to have a couple issues with only a small amount to no sex establishing the women as strong and compatant to make it hotter when they are corrupted/controlled.

That's the main site that would be the most like what we see here, of course, but between the "cb" mcstories category, manips on the Collective, tons of dA posts, the currently-relaunching Superstories, a good chunk of Vice's Yahoo group, and the occasional gem from various Heroine in Peril sites there's enough fetish fuel out there that I don't feel that strongly about it being here as well.

While I think MCComix does high quality work, I find their mind control is of the I-AM-NOW-A-ROBOT variety.  It happens quickly, and without much internal dialogue of the characters.  I don't think the genre matters, so much as the technique.  You guys have a good track record as far as being subtle and gradual in the mc elements (Hidden Knowledge especially, is terrific at this).  So if you apply that same technique to anything (whether it's superheroines or cooking shows), the appeal stays the same.

That being said, a strip with psycho pirate controlling Power Girl would get MY vote...

You're my new hero.

Why is it always assumed that the hero or heroine can't use MC to "save the world"? Drake hit the nail with Maxine Midnight. (I was really upset when he decided to retire it without completing it!)

I'm for some "darker" heroes "saving the world" one slave at a time!

I completely agree with Tony and mi_english, even though it's two separate thoughts

Hm!

As long as super heroines in question have chests the size of Power Girl, dress as skimpy as Firestar and will be depicted getting their brains ####ed out than it's an excellent idea.

I tend to like Superheroines in this setting both for Comics and Vids (there are several contributors to the sister forum who operate successfully with that subject matter).  I was under the vague impression that Stream was supposed to be that sort of comic, but the first entry was confusing...and I can't remember if it was dropped before a second entry was attempted or not.  This is different from, say--the accidental LARP near the end of the first arc of SJI.

Superheroines are great.  The key is to have vast powers and a strong will, but then be overwhelmed by urges.  If the villain can use the heroine's well... heroism... to begin her undoing, even better.  Also, sexual kryptonite equivalents are awesome.

Right then.  My vote is yes.

Look, the real appeal to this site, is that Daphne 'gets it' as far as HOW we want people mind controlled.  We want them to have some awareness...or at least for the change to be gradual...(to us, that is) so we get to revel in the gradual seduction of....*ahem*  is it getting hot in here?

Anyway, superheroines are a natural choice (I mean, Wonder Woman's first ten years are spent in bondage, c'mon!).  Sadly, I don't think any established characters are likely to be used (So, Plutonion Knight, maybe it can be Powerful Woman, controled by telepathy privateer)...

oh, and Daphne, if you do a strip about a cooking show, I want story credit

   I think some super hero comics would be fine.

I'd love to see some superheroines Mc'd.
Should be a long continuing series IMO. I'd hope to see an innocent heroine get mixed up in either some tech or magic and corrupted and then set out to add the other heroines to her new team or as drones.
You can feel free to blatantly make reference to known heroines all you want, ie. Power Woman, Wander Gal, Super Female, Hawkperson, Zentana, Winged Rodent Girl, Poisonous Ivy, ... you get the point.
Or make up some of your own. Those can be just as fun.   

For myself, I'd prefer it if the superheroes/superheroines win out in the end against the forces of evil.  They could even have MC powers themselves, not unlike this guy--

The Adventures Of ALL MAN (http://booksteveslibrary.blogspot.com/2010/03/all-man-1967.html)

While it's not expressly Mind Control, he does have every woman he meets want to fuck him, and they do appear to be thoroughly satisfied.  I'd call it Mind Control 12D6, Area Effect Radius, Only Vs. Women, Only To Control Extreme Sexual Attraction.

On top of that, he has Superman-level strength, speed and invulnerability.  Not bad if you can get it.

Perhaps a cosplayer could impersonate him in CON'Fused.  It would be a nifty tribute and a funny scene.

Hope that helps.

You missed Always On, Zero END, Damage Shield.

I also missed Only In Hero ID.  Then again, it's not like I was building the character--what GM would let me play him?

Had one GM dumb enough to let me buy up my CON and sell down all of the figured characteristics. So I tried again with a 10000 CON.

The Bizarre History Of Superhero Porn (http://io9.gizmodo.com/5914178/the-bizarre-history-of-superhero-porn-nsfw)

By no means a complete history, and the article says as much.  It does not include, for example, Jenna Jameson's Wicked Weapon, (http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=Wicked+Weapon/year=1997/wicked-weapon.htm) which is perhaps the only superhero porn movie that isn't played for laughs.  Nor does it include The Cockateer, (http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=Cockateer+1/year=1991/cockateer-1.htm) which has a scene where the villain Screwball uses his cock to Hypnotize the hero's girlfriend.  It does include a comic by Robert Crumb in which the superheroines get Hypnotized and recruited to the side of evil.  Which reinforces what I've surmised about fans of stories where superheroes and heroines are Hypnotized, defeated and humiliated--that they, like Crumb, despise superheroes.

As I've said before, I prefer it when the heroes and heroines win.

Obviously one of the big subtexts of Golden Age Wonder Woman is capturing and 'rehabilitating' criminals via her magic lasso, which isn't necessarily mind control per se but does force compliance. While Marston had ideas about the sexes that I'm not particularly fond of, I don't think you could say he *hated* superheroes (though he definitely thought the genre needed some shaking up). A lot of the superheroine erotica I see around the web focuses on the 'peril' aspect of things, and powerful women being humiliated and made to submit, oftentimes through sex that's portrayed as degrading. While I'm not averse to cape erotica per se, I find that model of things played out a bit. But the eroticization of the superhero genre itself is almost inevitable, dating back to at least the aforementioned Marston, and you have current-day writers such as Morrison who embrace the erotic portions of the genre while being unabashed fans of it. As a onetime comics writer myself, the kinky undercurrent is and will probably always remain there *cough*Claremont*cough* .

If one was going to publish a superheroine-oriented comic, my vote would be to invert the 'superheroine in peril' trope and make the protagonist superheroine the mind controller - I can't think of a better time to do kinky f/f mc stories. There *is* a certain appeal to female characters powerful by dint of super strength or what have you in submissive positions due to mind control, and characters who put forward a powerful public face being submissive or being made to submit in private, but the extremes of humiliation and degradation that I see in about 95% of erotica involving superheroines is off-putting, and usually if I'm enjoying it it's *in spite of* that, rather than because of it.

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There's plenty of superhero comics that are the equivalent of a good action movie - fun, flashy, and with a few twists to keep things exciting. I don't find it unusual that plenty of people find that interesting.


I dunno, calling mind-controlled sex scenes unnecessary seems strange considering the site you're on. You're coming off as pretty judgmental about how this kink that we all nominally share should be enjoyed. I don't find humiliation to add heat to a story on its own, but some people do, and I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with their opinion of women (as a group or individually). Sometimes a kink is just a kink. I've been into mind control since I was 5 or 6 and didn't exactly know what sex was and thought girls had cooties; sometimes its just how we're wired. There's some evidence to suggest that people into feet just have brains that are wired differently - trying to pin it to formative events in childhood or manifestations of political beliefs seems like mistaking wishes for truth.

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You know you're just begging people to respond with good action films, right?

OK, I'll bite. Have you seen:

High Noon
Shane
Unforgiven
The Magnificent Seven
??

Yes, I know, those are Westerns. But quite a few Westerns are also action films, just with the setting constrained to the old west. :-)

How about:

Star Wars (Episodes IV-VII)
Blade Runner
The Terminator
Back to the Future

Yeah, again, I know Sci-Fi ... see above comment about Westerns. :-)

and

Vertigo
Chinatown
The Usual Suspects

What? Mysteries you say? See above.

How about:

Saving Private Ryan (OK, it's a war movie, but you can exclude all those too, can you? :-) )
Apocalypse Now
Full Metal Jacket
The Godfather (and part II)
Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction
Raiders of the Lost Ark
quite a few of the Bond films (Dr. No, Goldfinger, ...)
Dirty Harry
Juurassic Park
Die Hard
Rocky
The Matrix
......

Wait, do we need to argue about what an action film is first? :-)

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Actually the plot of the villains in Die Hard is quite good. But it wasn't initially written as an action film. It was written as a sequel to a Sinatra film: The Detective.

Then it was remapped into a sequel to Commando with Arnie, and finally to Die Hard.

I voted yea for this because a bunch of the superhero stuff I've looked at devolves into the kind of erotica that...disgusts me. With how content on the site here is developed, I feel any superhero content would turn out awesome and maybe even wash out some of the bad taste I've ended up with. I've seen some really well done superhero stuff, but it seems far and few between.

One of my favorite things about the Superhero genre for mind control is that it is so dramatic. The most powerful people made vulnerable. Especially if it's not just droning, but if they do corruption instead (my favorite). Good girls turned bad, nothing hotter (except good guys turned into bad girls :) ).

Superheroines are good.

If they were bad they would probably be villains.

Most of this discussion has been very general in scope.  Let me throw out a few specific ideas that I think would really work in an erotic superhero story.


The Mask of Sin - Whoever wears the mask gains superpowers but is slowly corrupted by it  The mask is addictive.  The mask can give anyone who dons it powers, but prefers to have superpowered hosts, especially sexy superpowered hosts.  Whenever the current Demogorgon captures a superhero there is a very real chance that the mask will force its current host to transfer it to the captive.  Previous wearers of the mask are often still enslaved, and crave to wear it again.  Even if a superhero is strong enough to remove the mask quickly, s/he will always be haunted by the urge to wear it again.   

Mutant Flesh -  I've never really understood the Marvel universe's population's hatred and fear of genetic mutants.  Yes, I know it's a metaphor for racial discrimination, but still.  So lets give humans a real reason to freak out about mutants: their mutant abilities are sexual nature, giving mutants a genuine Darwinian advantage over regular humans.  Mutant society is divided as to how to proceed.  Some want to live peacefully with humans as equals, others want to manipulate human society, while others want humanity to kneel before them.  Now that the existence of mutants has been outed, the first option is looking less likely...

Demogorgon - Supervillian Demogorgon has the power of sexual mind control, but worse than that, he draws power from everyone he has enslaved, thus augmenting his abilities.  Superheroines give him much more power compared to regular women, but he has made a point of creating a global network of non-powered slaves, each of them useful in some non-sexual way (secretaries of VIPs, IRS agents, politicians, politician's wives, etc).  When he draws  power from his minions, they will feel an orgasmic rush which will build until they climax and collapse into unconsciousness.  However draining a slave that much burns out his link to  her, freeing her from his direct control, a fact that led to his first defeat.  Now he is much more careful with his power supply.

While I didn't have anything specific to suggest beyond MCing a superheroine is hawt, I must say Sytry's ideas sound awesome.