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Title: Pwned #2
Post by: Daphne on February 10, 2012, 11:35:26 am
(http://content.mindcontroltheatre.com/dvv/open/mcc/previews/pwned-i02-p00-pvw.jpg)

Coming soon!


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: Daphne on February 12, 2012, 01:04:04 pm
The tale continues, as Lindy and company find themselves falling further under Seeker's influence...surely Chuck can't mess this up. Can he?

(http://mindcontrolcomics.com/covers/pwned-i02-p00.jpg)

Coming February 22nd!


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: jmundt29 on February 12, 2012, 07:37:21 pm
The art is great.  Will this issue have more connective material so the audience (well, me) isn't befuddled?  I remember it took several issues before SJI, my current favorite on the site, heated up.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: laguna85 on February 13, 2012, 10:23:49 am
what Seeker's influence on the women  ???
I know he put then high drive on sex
Girl need the sex for day to day thing.
I need more to see if i going like it story


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: laguna85 on February 21, 2012, 05:40:18 pm
Yes tomorrow we get to see


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: raven on February 22, 2012, 03:09:59 am
That was an interesting twist  :)


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: Chettbaker on February 22, 2012, 04:26:58 am
Favorite part/turn on was seeing her ordered to get fast food dressed iin the harem/genie costume (her wearing the glasses while wearing the outfit was also cool in a subtle reminder of her true character way)

Great Story ! :)


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: laguna85 on February 22, 2012, 09:18:26 am
So a program want see what love is, it reporgram or (hypnosis) there mind.  There subconscious mind to love and obey to order.
Bad for Todd not been a good Proxy. I bet Todd want to be the master.
Look like all the Women inthe town is under the control of the Computer.
 :D this comics may put a viral into ladys computer and take control of your love. :D

I with (Chettbake) harem/genie costume is great ;D
the car wash was out world.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: powerpossum on February 23, 2012, 06:52:47 am
Thanks, guys! I'm really pleased you liked the story...there will be more coming up soon from Sefra, so keep an eye out for him!


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: downer on February 23, 2012, 04:22:05 pm
Chuck turned out to be a bit of an asshole. I really didn't like him. Though I suppose having absolute power has a way of making people into jerks. :p

Interesting twist though. Definitely unexpected.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: jmundt29 on February 24, 2012, 07:45:29 am
Chuck demonstrates the perils facing Daffid and Adrian in other long-running comics.  He is what not to become.  Seeker's true identity was an interesting twist.  A H.A.L. for the real twenty-first cientury, but...more of a great concept joke.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: stormrazor2000 on February 25, 2012, 11:08:05 am
I really debated posting this as it's very subjective opinion. However I felt I needed to offer what might be constructive criticism that could help a talented author. The bottom line is that this story was not only a total miss with me, but I actively disliked it. I was good with going along with the first issue, but the second one ruined the story for me.  Examining my feelings on it I've come to a conclusions as to why.

There is absolutely nobody in the story that I really felt a shred of empathy for. I never even felt any real sympathy for the victims. In fact I really couldn't care less what happened to any of them. In these comics the MCer or those that benefit from the MC obviously have an evil side to control someone against their will. But there is typically something redeeming about them. I find I need that so that I can connect to them on some level. Otherwise instead of the story fueling my fantasies, it makes me recoil.

While in this story the AI was the MCer, those that benefited from the MC were the absolute dregs of humanity. Drunk, abusive and exploiting dregs. Sorry, but there nothing erotic about that at all. While I think there is a place for a truly evil MCer, a story like that should at least feature a positive counterpart. SJI is a good example of this with Derik being offset with Adrian.

So to sum up, the story and twist was interesting, but the characters and tone ruined for me what otherwise might have been a great story.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: powerpossum on February 26, 2012, 07:53:58 am
Hi Stormrazor,

You, Jmundt, and Downer are all right - Chuck is a deliberately unsympathetic character. He's a powerless loser when the story starts, and once he gains some power, he doesn't do anything with it but become a bigger loser. That part was intentional...maybe not attractive, but intentional. Dave isn't abusive, but he's certainly no prize either. Same goes for Todd.

As a story on a porn site, the point of Pwned was ultimately to titillate - and in that regard, for you, it failed - I'm sorry you didn't find it appealing and I'll take your comments on board for my approach to future scripts. I understand completely about finding it difficult (impossible, even) to relate to characters who are so morally bankrupt. My own preferences are showing...I like it when the MCer is pretty clearly corrupt and horrible.

I have to admit, though, I'm pleased you posted your critique - it establishes that you went away thinking about the story (even though your thought was 'wow, I really didn't like that') and examined it for a while after the reading was over. Even if none was intended, it's impossible for me as a writer not to take that as a compliment. Thank you for taking the time to post your thoughts...and thank you for thinking on it so thoroughly.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: raven on February 26, 2012, 03:37:52 pm
Part 2 had some good parts to it, but was also a bit of a miss for me as well, and I was surprised as I generally like a corrupt mc'er. I think it was similar, where I didn't care about anyone, even the victims. Also though, Chuck was so powerless and lame that he didn't come across as anything more than a tool (in more ways than one) so you couldn't connect with him as much.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: T5Medici on February 26, 2012, 04:49:21 pm
Not every story is a favorite but I like following them all anyway. Stories I might not like in the beginning might end up taking a direction I like. And it is possible that some liked stories won't progress in a direction that I like. That's why I follow all of them! It's possible that a Part 3 could revive the story and it's also possible that either Part 2 or Part 3 will bury it. I guess we'll just have to see when it gets there.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: OctaviaMoon on February 27, 2012, 11:45:25 am
There was a big debate in the PK/O household about your post, Stormrazor...not a heated one, but it is interesting how perceptions differ...being a guuuurl...I assumed Lindy to be the 'hero', maybe I was wrong :) I found her to be likeable albeit resistant to the control being exerted upon her person...

I also quite liked The Seeker...he was misguided and, apart from (apparently) instigating Todd's suicide, I thought he wasn't a bad 'guy'...:) And who didn't want to see Todd's demise?

It is also fascinating (to me, anyway) that Adrian is such a "big damned hero" to most members...since he's spent the greater part of the last few weeks trying desperately to unprogramme all the SJI girls..lol! But we all like a nice guy who stumbles on a bit of lucky chance...don't we? :)


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: stormrazor2000 on February 27, 2012, 12:57:28 pm
First off, I'm glad you took my post as a compliment, because it is. The story really made me think and examine my own feelings on a lot of aspects of this particular kink of mine.  ;)

While Lindy was the most likable of the characters, her inability to affect the outcome, and the fact that she was killed off removed her from hero contention in my mind. It would have improved the story immensely for example if she had gotten away and vowed to stop what was going on. That would have been a fantastic issue 3 in my opinion. The spreading influence of The Seeker with only Lindy to stop or redirect it. Certainly opinions may vary on that.

The Seeker was misguided, but not particularly likable as it isn't human. Hard to connect to an AI. ;)

I was also thinking about Nick in Beyond Rubies. He is bad in that he is taking advantage of the girls personally, but he comes across as caring for them. He seems like a nice guy otherwise and isn't (as far as we know) pimping them out. So I am able to connect and root for him, even though he isn't strictly a hero.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: downer on February 27, 2012, 07:53:37 pm
@PlutonianKnight:
I got the point that Chuck was supposed to be unlikable so that we garner some satisfaction from his eventual failure. The moment when he realizes the fragility of his so-called "power", his overblown sense of self crumbles and his true pathetic nature shines through again. He had a sweet situation, and he completely squandered it. To me, it is especially bitter having had something like that, then losing it.

@Octavia:
You know, Lindy was about the only character besides Chuck who got any development. Since Chuck was so unsympathetic, we basically had to identify with her to have some point of focus. The other ladies seemed like they were just foils to provide erotic content, and the other guys were barely there.

As for Todd, he had so little screen time that I couldn't really form an opinion on him. Even if he seemed like a jerk, I don't think he deserved to die. Though to me, that illustrated how callous The Seeker felt about human life. How it saw all of us as disposable experiments. Especially when it discarded Chuck after he ceased to be of value.

As for Adrian, some might call him a fool for giving up such an opportunity. Who knows, he may still choose to give in to temptation and pull a 180. In the meantime, though, I'd say he is the least selfish of all the characters thus far from all of MCC's stories for choosing to "do the right thing".

@stormrazor2000:
I have a slightly different take on Nick from BR. I don't identify with him at all because he is most definitely a jerk for what he is doing. Most every protagonist from these kinds of stories are going to be morally questionable for the same reasons. However, I find them a little more approachable since they don't have such repugnant personalities. To me, it's like being able to find the villain of any media entertaining if they have some class, or can put on a good show. That's versus an antagonist who is such because you hate every moment they are in the scene and just want them to burst into flames.

@all:
Seems strange to me getting into this kind of story and character analysis when the subject matter is porn. And yet, here we are! :p


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: Daphne on February 27, 2012, 07:55:12 pm
@all:
Seems strange to me getting into this kind of story and character analysis when the subject matter is porn. And yet, here we are! :p

The motto of Mind Control Theatre and Comics is: "It's never just porn!"


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: elbenton on February 28, 2012, 05:59:39 pm
I have said this before, or maybe it was just in an email to Daphne, but I don't think it matters if anyone wants to call the venue "comics", "online comics"
 or "porno".  I think that both the story-writing and the dialog in all of the comics are excellent and deserve acknowledgement in any media.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: Daphne on February 28, 2012, 06:00:57 pm
I have said this before, or maybe it was just in an email to Daphne, but I don't think it matters if anyone wants to call the venue "comics", "online comics"
 or "porno".  I think that both the story-writing and the dialog in all of the comics are excellent and deserve acknowledgement in any media.

Blush! Thank you!


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: elbenton on February 29, 2012, 03:57:43 am
At MCC it seems to me to be a team effort between writing and graphics and I think the teams do great jobs in all of their configurations.  Not to diminish the contributions of the various graphic artists.  I think that it's like a TV show or a movie.  Without good writing, it doesn't matter how talented, handsome or pretty the cast is. 


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: powerpossum on February 29, 2012, 08:41:06 am
At MCC it seems to me to be a team effort between writing and graphics and I think the teams do great jobs in all of their configurations. 

Excellent observation! I agree - comics are a cooperative medium and MCC is definitely no exception. Thank you very much for the kind words, and for supporting us in what we do!

Without good writing, it doesn't matter how talented, handsome or pretty the cast is. 

And that...jeez, don't get me started.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: robbie73_ on March 01, 2012, 09:52:26 am
Hey, All artists, writers,Illistrater's et al, Just a quick note of thanks to each and every one of you for the GREAT job you do, each and every time you produce a new comic!!!

Speaking ONLY for my self, I want to thank ALL of you for a suberb job of bringing all members of MCC, THE VERY BEST IN MIND CONTROL STORIES/COMICS, which can only be brought to us by an extremely fine collection of creative people who LOVE WHAT THEY DO!!!

Again, Thanks to all. :) :) :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: jlpicrdh on March 02, 2012, 11:52:19 pm
@all:
Seems strange to me getting into this kind of story and character analysis when the subject matter is porn. And yet, here we are! :p

The motto of Mind Control Theatre and Comics is: "It's never just porn!"

Which is why I like this site so much. Pure sex is ok, but it can be really boring. That's why we've got fetishes, to spice it up. There have been several porn movies where the first time through, I actually skip the sex scenes just to enjoy the plot. "Yard Sale of Hell House" was one like that. Basic plot, but the induction scenes were so well done that it didn't need the sex (though I'm certainly not complaining :) ). Paris Kennedy's Blue Rain was another one like that - great plot, great inductions, and I skipped the sex scenes the first time through just to enjoy the plot.

Getting back to this particular comic, I'll toss in my two cents. I enjoyed it right to the very end. The mystery of who was behind it made it interesting, and I loved the twist. But the end felt kind of abrupt and murky. Chuck and Heather get stuck with each other, which since we weren't supposed to really like either of them is a win. Christy is enslaved to their photographer for some reason, and Lindy...? The implication is that this thing spreads out (but doesn't say how far), and takes over other people (women only?) and enslaves them for...? Too many questions about what should be our main characters (Lindy and Seeker) that aren't answered very clearly. I'm not sure that there would be enough there to make a 3rd story showing what happened specifically to Lindy, Seeker, and the rest of the world, but it might be interesting to try.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: elbenton on March 04, 2012, 01:23:59 pm
@jlpicrdh,
(Is that an abbreviation for Jean-Luc Picard, sort of?) I agree with you somewhat.  There are so many open plot doors that I think this one might make a a good weekly SJI companion.


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: powerpossum on March 05, 2012, 09:38:49 am
Wow, thanks again you three. I'm amazed (pleasantly!) that we're still talking about this one almost two weeks after its release. I appreciate your thoughts on it, and you're right - the characters were all painted in fairly broad strokes, and there are a lot of questions left open at the end.

I'm especially pleased that jlpicrdh picked up on the suggestion that Chuck and Heather's 'punishment' was each other, since they're (debatably) the worst people in the story. Lindy was consumed by the mind-control lesbian apocalypse because Seeker had taken a special interest in her, and as for Christy...I mostly thought it was funny that way - an attempt to make everyone end up with what they liked the least (other than Dave, I suppose, who made out okay).

But thanks again for your thoughts and your input - it's all been great to read and think over!


Title: Re: Pwned #2
Post by: jlpicrdh on March 13, 2012, 09:36:37 pm
@jlpicrdh,
(Is that an abbreviation for Jean-Luc Picard, sort of?) I agree with you somewhat.  There are so many open plot doors that I think this one might make a a good weekly SJI companion.
A mashup of that, with my initials thrown in the mix, and chopped down to fit the 8 letter limitation a lot of sites have. :)