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Title: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Daphne on March 18, 2019, 12:01:42 am
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Written by: Daphne • Inks: Plutonian Knight • Colors and Lettering: Octavia Moon


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: laguna85 on March 18, 2019, 12:17:02 am
Adrian may think he safety echo in his mind?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: lifmcs on March 18, 2019, 12:36:57 am
A little birdie told me?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: mns_95125 on March 18, 2019, 08:09:49 am
I think i recognize that bird from one of Danielle's flashbacks.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: GodWilling on March 18, 2019, 02:52:13 pm
Jakob had a grey parrot in two past scenes featuring Danielle. This looks more like Chuck and Jeane's bird that triggered Dani's flashback in 154 - although that was blue. (I'd still like to know who that is looking out of the window in the last panel of that page.)

If the previous page in this thread is anything to go by, this should be Echo telling Adrian everything starting from the beginning. But I think that's the beginning of Jakob taking Echo. So... Cherry was there?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: laguna85 on March 19, 2019, 01:30:07 am
Adrian may think he safety echo in his mind?
that not Echo it is Cherry See the watch.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: jmundt29 on March 19, 2019, 07:04:22 am
So, he's been dealing with another aspect of Cherry while she's been trying to either

A. Exact her revenge or
B. Execute her programming on Erin?

Interesting.

I have questions about panels 3 and 5.  I don't think that's Vik in 3, but I don't have a name for him.  If it were Vik or a friend or rival (assuming Vik had either of those) it might explain Vik's own pursuits earlier in the comic.

Panel 5--Who is that with the bag being welcomed in Panel 5.  I don't recognize her either.  My only solid takeaway is that Cherry brought Erin to Jakob's attention and she's been a target since before Dani "disappeared."


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: raven on March 19, 2019, 07:18:34 am
Panel 5 is Echo, I think, due to hair color and timing. I agree that Cherry brought Erin to Jakob's attention, however, nothing could happen because Erin left.

There are some obvious paths as to how this could go. One that's possible is that Aikon is possessed by Jakob. We keep seeing him pop up as an active figure in things like this. With Cherry's magic and the pink cloud weirdness, we could see this appearing.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: mns_95125 on March 19, 2019, 08:15:31 am
I'm still trying to figure out what provoked Adrian's "Oh no" reaction.  He should have already known that Jakob knew about and wanted Erin, and he should have known that Jakob did take Echo.  I don't see why Vik having a connection to Jakob (assuming that is Vik in panel 3) would provoke that response.  So what's the deal?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Haight on March 19, 2019, 09:12:58 am
I'm still trying to figure out what provoked Adrian's "Oh no" reaction.  He should have already known that Jakob knew about and wanted Erin, and he should have known that Jakob did take Echo.  I don't see why Vik having a connection to Jakob (assuming that is Vik in panel 3) would provoke that response.  So what's the deal?

I'm wondering if it's that he was manipulated into going to Kearsarge to find Erin. Like it's all part of Jakob's plan.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Daphne on March 19, 2019, 10:57:57 am
Panel 5 is Echo, I think, due to hair color and timing.

Not Echo.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Haight on March 19, 2019, 12:14:16 pm
Panel 5 is Echo, I think, due to hair color and timing.

Not Echo.

Who the heck even has that hair color in this series? Adrian's mom?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: zhivik on March 19, 2019, 12:25:47 pm
Panel 5 is Echo, I think, due to hair color and timing.

Not Echo.

Who the heck even has that hair color in this series? Adrian's mom?

That was my first thought. Which brings us to interesting possibilities, as after all, one can only be certain who their mother is ...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Haight on March 19, 2019, 12:30:41 pm
That was my first thought. Which brings us to interesting possibilities, as after all, one can only be certain who their mother is ...

Adrian does look a lot like his dad though.

Also, I kind of might guess that Erin would be the one related to Jakob, if anyone. Though the odds of a black-haired dude having a red-haired daughter are slim (but it's not impossible).


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: lifmcs on March 19, 2019, 01:10:12 pm
Can we all just take moment and appreciate that elaborate choker affair Dani is wearing?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Haight on March 19, 2019, 01:17:04 pm
Can we all just take moment and appreciate that elaborate choker affair Dani is wearing?

It's hot. Too bad the girls don't have too much fun with that kind of aesthetic in the present in the comic.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: GodWilling on March 19, 2019, 01:56:02 pm
Miel was my first thought, and that might explain Adrian's reaction. Her face actually looks like Erin, but I think that's just because they share an artist. At a stretch, it could be Laura, which might make sense if Vik were involved, but I don't think it's her either.

Is Dani the maid in all of those panels? It looks like her in that panel. And that ought to make it fairly recent. Information we've been given in various places would indicate that Dani was with Jakob between no earlier than mid-2009 and no later than early 2011. (Jakob said in 362 that his time with her was short.)

But I think we know that Miel and Patrick were still in Kearsarge while Jakob was at Wilmot, and it seems inevitable that that's significant.

If that is Vik, it did occur to me that it could be what's currently happening in the other thread "leaking" through. Is Cherry the slave girl blowing him? Is it a him? His eyes look both surprised and glazed.

Aiken did look a little like Jakob when he was going in for the kiss.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: jmundt29 on March 19, 2019, 02:54:05 pm
Related to Jakob?  Well--her parental history is a curious blank.  We don't even know whose last name Hackberry is.

If she's been a Kupler target since before Dani disappeared, then I think the provocation of the suicide attempt means that Cherry was acting outside her mandate if she was still acting on Jakob's instructions.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Haight on March 19, 2019, 03:35:09 pm
TBH my only reason for thinking that Erin is Jakob's daughter is that the first woman at Wilmot he's presented as having hypnotized is a phenomenally busty redhead. If she's Erin's mom, then yeah. Otherwise...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: GodWilling on March 19, 2019, 03:52:08 pm
Assuming the story is currently in January 2012, then according to Dramatis Personae Erin would have been conceived around February 1987, which would fit with Jakob's time teaching at Wilmot. For what it's worth my pet theory regarding Erin's parentage involves Rain, or perhaps Polly. Actually, that's pretty much the sum total of that theory.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: Haight on March 19, 2019, 03:55:46 pm
Assuming the story is currently in January 2012, then according to Dramatis Personae Erin would have been conceived around February 1987, which would fit with Jakob's time teaching at Wilmot. For what it's worth my pet theory regarding Erin's parentage involves Rain, or perhaps Polly. Actually, that's pretty much the sum total of that theory.

Are we sure Rain and Polly aren't the same person (or semi-divine entity)?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: GodWilling on March 19, 2019, 04:05:56 pm
Are we sure Rain and Polly aren't the same person (or semi-divine entity)?

Are we sure Adrian isn't an alien?

Miel referred to "Polly" in July 1986 (g23) - someone known to Patrick and probably involved in music. That could suggest that there was Polly in Kearsarge then, whereas there is Rain in Kearsarge now: possibly similar but different entities. Or there may have just been a random woman in Kearsarge then called Polly. He could be an alien though.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: mns_95125 on March 19, 2019, 04:25:11 pm
Hmm.  If that woman in the last panel isn't Echo, I have no idea who she is.  Are we supposed to recognize her?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: macavity on March 19, 2019, 04:48:13 pm
Is this the Heisenberg uncertainty principle applied to the SJI universe: if we know who they are we’re not sure what they are doing, and if we know what they are doing we’re not sure who they are?

Can’t wait for quantum entanglement to raise its head....


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: lifmcs on March 19, 2019, 10:52:20 pm
Can’t wait for quantum entanglement to raise its head....

Somewhere an Ominous Idea Bulb just lit up.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary #823: “A Distant Echo”
Post by: GodWilling on March 20, 2019, 12:13:42 pm
This morning it took almost an hour for me to accept that it was Wednesday (already?!), but someone says 'quantum' and I immediately recall Daphne saying this as if it was, well, about five and a half years ago actually.

All I can ask is that no one be too disappointed when the quantum state finally resolves in favor of one interpretation or another...

I suppose I should acknowledge that it's not as relevant as it sounds... Welcome to my comments.