Title: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Daphne on December 11, 2018, 12:07:42 pm Dying of curiosity!
Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: grommile on December 11, 2018, 02:09:59 pm It's pretty much never bad, and sometimes it's the only thing that works right.
Sometimes, of course, something else can be a hotter fit. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Dr. White on December 11, 2018, 06:56:49 pm Actually I like a simple 'Sir'.
(or maybe 'Boss'?) Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: bigwad73 on December 11, 2018, 09:47:07 pm Actually I like a simple 'Sir'. (or maybe 'Boss'?) Concur with this concept to some extent--some sort of an acknowledgment of inferiority by the sub, either more formal if there's a rigid kind of MC, or less formal otherwise. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: lifmcs on December 11, 2018, 11:27:13 pm I went with the middle option because it doesn’t do much for me without some greater meaning behind it. There needs to be a flavor to the usage beyond a simple term of address that I can taste. Examples of that include: showing profound respect whether earned or induced, as an affect of a happy, mayhaps ditzy slave, it being used with affection, or in situations of abject supplication, etc.
Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: GodWilling on December 12, 2018, 01:40:04 am .
Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: madboy7931 on December 12, 2018, 04:26:55 am Because it does nothing for me, I find its use mostly just annoying, so I said it leaves me cold (although surely that's the same thing). My particular bugbear is people who've had no apparent programming to use that term suddenly coming out with it. I know it's a fetish thing for some readers, but more often than not its use grinds against the context (yes, I just swallowed this highly experimental scientific sample in a dystopian near-future and now apparently I'm a genie). Plus it implies we're in yet another male dominant story... I agree on the last part whole hardheartedly, in that there are very few issues where the female is in charge. Notable exceptions are The Help (hoping for more from this) and my fave Waiting Room, although now Laurel is a slave to Dr Michaels, where before she was the person in charge, so I hope that changes back again in a future issue. I do understand that the majority of readers would most likely want to read about a male dominate subject, but I'd like to see a female hypno dominate over a male every now and again. But that might just be me :-) Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: elenchos on December 12, 2018, 05:34:08 am Because it does nothing for me, I find its use mostly just annoying, so I said it leaves me cold (although surely that's the same thing). My particular bugbear is people who've had no apparent programming to use that term suddenly coming out with it. I know it's a fetish thing for some readers, but more often than not its use grinds against the context (yes, I just swallowed this highly experimental scientific sample in a dystopian near-future and now apparently I'm a genie). Plus it implies we're in yet another male dominant story... I really, really like it. However, I must agree that it’s highly irritating when there’s no reason for it to be used, just as GodWilling says. It’s amazing how much of a turn-off it can be for someone who just got MCed, one way or another, to suddenly bust out with “Yes, Master” before they’re told to use the term... it just doesn’t make sense. On the gender issue - if it’s a woman doing the MC, it should properly be Mistress, shouldn’t it? Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Dr. White on December 12, 2018, 08:15:23 am if it’s a woman doing the MC, it should properly be Mistress, shouldn’t it? Missy. ;) Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: ozymandias on December 12, 2018, 01:19:27 pm Depends on the MC. If the controller is going for total mastery, "yes master" is just right. If the controller is going for dominance, "sir" or "master" is fine. If the controller is known to the subject before control starts, depending on the type of control, the controller's name, or "sir", or "master".
Briefly: if it makes sense given the story. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Haight on December 12, 2018, 01:59:13 pm I'm a real big fan of "master," but more precisely I'm a much bigger fan of the attitude. "Sir" or "lord" in the right contexts/settings can be just as hot, but the central power dynamic of a relationship like that is exciting. "Master" without the attitude is eh, just a word. Would actually be interesting to have a story that doesn't use any of the words I mentioned but keeps the attitude.
"Master" as a perfunctory affectation of speech without the attitude is kind of... perhaps workable in some MC stories, but I think I enjoy stories where one party is enthusiastically, non-mindlessly submissive quite a bit. I agree with GodWilling that it's weird when it comes out of nowhere; I really like to see it being something specifically programmed in (but then I really enjoy programming scenes followed by characters playing that out in a non-mindless fashion, potentially with awareness of having been changed). For the record, I'm hoping the word, *and* the attitude, make a return to the members of the harem in SJI at some point ;-) Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: meltons on December 31, 2018, 10:05:53 am I personally like it when "master" is said as a default. For example, if a lady has been recently MC'd, saying "master" is not an issue. However the immediate blank stare is a little overdoing it I think. My favorite scenes are when the women are acting as natural as possible, yet still saying "master" as part of their core programming.
Another example is a story I read where the lady was accidentally MC'd, and she was trying not to say "master" when talking to him. But it kept coming out anyway. I guess it all depends on context and execution. The blank stares aren't really necessary IMO. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: laguna85 on December 31, 2018, 10:10:13 am if it’s a woman doing the MC, it should properly be Mistress, shouldn’t it? Missy. ;) ma'am Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: John on December 31, 2018, 12:28:31 pm I like when she resist at first but in the end submits and calls him master on her own, even better when she decides it on her own
Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: BorisL on December 31, 2018, 05:27:04 pm What gets up my nose is that we often see a mind-controlled minion (of either sex) who is given the single command: "You are now my slave" and suddenly they have this whole set of DS manners imprinted on them (talking of themselves in the third person, seeing their body as the possesion of their master, etc etc) without any further need for programming as if the whole ethos was already there and by implication was there in every Tom, Dick and Harriet who might be picked up off the street.
Whereas even assuming it works it really should be: "Oh, I'm your slave! Right, fine! Do I call you 'Master' now or what? Is kneeling right or what?" There are imagined technologies and magics that could imprint a whole set of manners. But that's not what we normally see, is it? Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: hereno on December 31, 2018, 07:40:22 pm What gets up my nose is that we often see a mind-controlled minion (of either sex) who is given the single command: "You are now my slave" and suddenly they have this whole set of DS manners imprinted on them (talking of themselves in the third person, seeing their body as the possesion of their master, etc etc) without any further need for programming as if the whole ethos was already there and by implication was there in every Tom, Dick and Harriet who might be picked up off the street. Whereas even assuming it works it really should be: "Oh, I'm your slave! Right, fine! Do I call you 'Master' now or what? Is kneeling right or what?" There are imagined technologies and magics that could imprint a whole set of manners. But that's not what we normally see, is it? I've always seen it as just a short-hand. You *could* show the entire etiquette-imprinting process, but that would get old if you did it in every single comic. Faster and simpler just to get straight to the point. Obviously some stories are really all about the programming process, but for those that aren't, the shorthand works. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: GodWilling on January 01, 2019, 01:53:13 am .
Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Haight on January 03, 2019, 01:46:56 am Whereas even assuming it works it really should be: "Oh, I'm your slave! Right, fine! Do I call you 'Master' now or what? Is kneeling right or what?" Yeah, this is something that gets brushed under the rug too often. Be nice to see a series with a couple working that out when the woman is accidentally enslaved to her partner. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: mi_english on April 16, 2019, 11:02:54 am As with so many things, it depends upon the context. I've little interest in seeing someone instantly start calling a person Master (because they have been ordered to, or its somehow assumed now that they've been mind controlled).
On the other hand, someone coming to the realization (on their own, or so they believe) that someone should be be called Master (perhaps after a progression of using their name, calling them 'Sir', and so on) is very hot. So if the woman thinks she has come up with it herself, like its the natural progression, and quite reasonable (when we know it isn't) is very appealing. But the usual 'yes master' the second someone has been hypnotized is pretty boring. One small note: Tabico and Trilby Else used to do this thing where the person starting talking/thinking of themselves in small letters (so 'i' instead of 'I' and 'jane' instead of 'Jane') as an indication that they have become a submissive/slave. I would love to see that subtle effect added into word balloons or narration. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: neogeo on May 17, 2019, 09:48:31 am Somewhere between
Nice but not required. and Not hot if not. Now having lady slaves who themselves have slaves calling them "Mistress"? That's some kinda insanely hot social pyramid of sexiness. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Geo on May 17, 2019, 10:27:39 pm Greetings from oldgeo
Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: ozymandias on May 18, 2019, 06:32:34 am Greetings from nongeo*
---- *(also not a non-government organization) Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: doctorx on June 05, 2019, 11:53:09 am Fun, however, yes, overdone. Obviously, I wouldn't be here if I didn't love Daphne's work, so I hope this comes off as constructive, because it's certainly not meant to be plain old criticism.
How many ways are there to rephrase "Yes, Master. Anything you wish, Master," anyway? There are some other lines that, while classic AND hot, DO tend to be overused. We KNOW you'll do anything, anything at all; that's why he mind-controlled you! Fucktoy, fuckdoll, fuckslave, fuck-ing pick another noun already. "So docile... so obedient... So, I hear there's this thing called a Thesaurus..." Again, couldn't come up with roast-type "complaints" like these unless I read and loved Daphne's works and looked forward to many more. I write, not as well, and fully admit that without Daniel & Becka, there'd be no Troy & Julie. I'm aware that there are words and phrases I overuse myself. I mean, how many ways are there to say "being able to control minds makes you Ultra-Confident; therefore, if you channel that into something you're passionate about, you'll become an expert in your chosen field," either? Nonetheless, there are other ways to say "I need to suck your cock" besides "I need to suck your cock." Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: snivgrits on June 11, 2019, 10:44:33 am I like when a sub calls their dom Master or Mistress.
However, diversity is key. Other forms of address are also pleasing. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Leonardo Reign on July 19, 2023, 05:02:37 pm A lot depends on the story setting, of course.
Me personally, I can live without it, particularly in stories set in the modern world with dialogue in contemporary English. Title: Re: So, how are you on "Master"? Post by: Dr. White on July 21, 2023, 10:24:47 pm One of my favorite alternatives to 'Master' is 'Boss'.
(and it's unisex too) |