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This is the discussion topic for this announcement (http://mindcontrolcomics.com/forum/index.php?topic=184.0).

I am on another site that uses Veroltel Ticketsclub for processing. See http://ticketsclub.com/

Tony

Sadly, Verotel turned us down due to the "non-consensual" nature of the content.

(We're definitely open to suggestions for places to look! Just don't suggest PayPal. :) )

The Hypnolust site had the same problem until he changed the name of the site slightly.  Any thought in doing that?  Would that even work?

I suggested it because that is what hypnolust uses. However, some things have changed there. He rarely allows new membership anymore and the site indicates that. Membership renewals occur on request and through a not so obvious link on a random page there.

The idea of changing the "theme" of the site slightly might work. Maybe you should consider that too.

I was going to suggest that you could take "donations" through Paypal. And you should consider allowing current members to donate that way to extend memberships. If I remember right, I opted for a one year membership when I last signed up. (I like non-recurring options since I forget where I signed up and that could cause future issues.) I certainly hope that the processor gave you that money. I'd hate to think I donated to a bank. (I hate banks!)

I'm surprised that Verotel turned you down.  I've seen other sites with "questionable" content or non-consensual content using them.  Anyway, I surfed thru and looked up several "non-consensual" sites and clicked on their payment links and found they were using these payment companies:

standardpay.com
pay2us.biz
zombaio.com
netbilling.com

I hope this helps!

How about "2000 Charge"?

Also "SegPay" is another popular one.

I just got a notification that my subscription was about to expire, and was hoping that meant you had gotten payment processing sorted out. Damn.

Have you thought about using CCBill? They seem to be one of  the most populer and considering some of the sites that use them I can't see them having any problem with this one ;)

Sadly, ccBill rejected us. Yes, we know about a Certain Other Mind Control Comic Site which uses them. We brought that up. Did no good. Sigh.

Daphne, Have you given  any thought of having MCC and MCT customers use "snail mail" and use money orders to pay for products and services??

At least that way you would sell some product and have a cash flow to pay your artists etc.

Just a thought, I for one would use m/o's to buy your movies etc, and I am quite sure that a lot of customers of both sites would also use that medium to pay. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Here are a few more from similar NC type sites.
http://www.dhdmedia.com/
https://epoch.com/en/our_services.html
You could also consider www.niteflirt.com. They definitely have this subject matter, though I'm not sure how well the subscription model would work with them.

Hope these problems can be fixed soon but I wanted to add that I too would be ok with sending payments via snail mail for a temporary basis.

Hi Daphne,

Is there any word on this yet?

Many thanks.

We're working away on it! It will probably be fixed in a matter of weeks. Not days, not months.

Have you ever considered expanding some of these stories at the EMCSA?  "The Hidden Knowledge" would make an excellent story.

I assume those of us who have annual subscriptions will, eventually, get time tacked on the end?

We'll extend it based on the number of standard weekly updates missed, yes.

Well... I'll be hoenst: There's a work/reward problem there. I love to write, but there is only so much time I have to devote to producing free content.

That's entirely fair.  That said, I'd probably be willing to pay for straight text content as well -- your stuff on the EMCSA is excellent.

MCC - Down because they can't take credit cards
PSN - Down because they can't keep credit cards
:)

Yes, but we haven't had a data leak. :)

HIP Comics has extremely non-consensual sex in some/all of it's stories, as does MCComix.  You should be able to use the same service as them - and if not, I'd be looking at why. There may be some restriction of trade process you could use as leverage...

We've applied to them. The conversation went something like:

"No, you have non-consensual content."

"But what about MCComix? You process for them."

"We can't discuss it. Bye."

It's insanely frustrating.

That almost sounds like a conspiracy.

It does! My guess is that they let sleeping dogs lie for existing customers, but don't take chances on new ones.

But we're still working on a solution, and some of the possibilities hold promise!

You know technically, I can't think of any sex on here that's depicted as non-consensual. By the time they get to that part, everyone is perfectly willing (or will-less) to participate. :)

I'm sorry it's so frustrating. Hopefully people are understanding about this. It's hard enough to get a merchant account under the best of circumstances, and adult sites have a higher risk of fraud, so it's even harder for them. Hang in there.

Daphne, have you given any thought about the possibilities of hypnotising these guys and then you wouldn't have to worry about consent or not, and what about the discrimination laws in this country, looks like a great lawsuit to me.

Discrimination laws?  I don't think "mind seducers" are a Federally protected group.

(Term edited, see below -- D)

Just some quick observations:

1. The "why don't you hypnotize the bankers" joke has been played out.

2. A lawsuit isn't going to happen. I won't say that there isn't some cause of action, but it would be a tremendous long shot. If anyone has a few hundred thousand dollars lying around to fund such a suit, let me know: Remember who you would be going up against.

3. Please be judicious about how you describe content. Keyword scans are part of what the banks do.

So in the meantime, those of us who got the "Your Subscription will Expire at the End of the Month" notice in our e-mail should just hang tight?

Yes! If processing hasn't been turned back on, you'll get another extension, because we love you just that much.

I reckon keyword scans can't see the words in the comics themselves, since those are just pictures of words and not actual searchable text.

I just wanted to thank you guys for being honest and treating us as customers so well. You could have easily said, "Tough" and waited for us to renew. It speaks highly of your character and ethics and I wanted you guys to know we appreciate it.

Seconded, and with thanks Daphne, you have had some problems and the way you handled them showed what kind of ethics and caring you feel towards your customers.

Again, thank you for being "upfront" with us.

You are most welcome! We're hard at work at a solution, and we hope to have one soon. We do very much want to take your money. :)

Daphne, Just a thought about how to get some funds to help defray the costs of running the site, I noticed that the "Hypnopics Collective" is asking for donations to help run their site.

Would that be an option for your situation??

Hey Daphne :)  When the payment situation gets resolved, and we know it will cause you are awesome!.. Can those who went for a full years membership renew on that scale again?  I saw the renewal/subscription page only gave the option of one or three month subscriptions.     And thanks again for giving us a year of amazing mind control comics!  Happy Anniversary!..maybe next year there will be Cake! :)

I never trust promises of cake, what with the cake being a lie.  Thirding the thanks for being open and up front with us about all this.  I find it extremely reprehensible how the banks and payment companies have behaved, but giving us the details and extensions is the best behavior possible, and all too rare these days.  Thank you.

Already tried www.paysite-cash.biz ? That's what they're using at www.sharks-lagoon.fr, which is very similar to yours.

Thank you!

Youre welcome. Have you contacted them?

Have you tried www.payloadz.com?
Girls Gone Hypnotized uses them, I believe.

any news??

Daphne, If "push" comes to shove, you could just have us send you a check or perhaps a direct deposit to your bank for payments for merchandise or in this case membership dues.

Just a thought.

None yet, but we think we're on the right track. Keep your fingers crossed!

Are they just not liking the name of the site? Like if you called it "Erotic Mind Seduction Comics" (or something to that effect) would be they be more likely support it? Trying to be helpful :-)

Surprisingly, the latest round of banks we are talking with seem unfussed about the name. We'll see! However, a new site with a new name is one possibility.

Daphne, Since today is 7/15/11 and you have been so generous in extending all of our subscriptions, will you have to do it one more time till the screwy banks get their act together.

I am still looking forward to "Drains" and hope that you and DarkVanessa have worked out your misunderstanding and we will be seeing "Drains" real soon. ;D ;D ;D

Me too! I LOVED that comic! :-D

Daphne, Would it be possible to either rent or buy your own credit card processing equiptment??

Doing so would help you do your own processing and maybe even cut costs on how much you have to pay another company to do the job for you.

I know some small companies do their own credit card processing, just a thought. ;D ;D ;D

It's not a matter of the equipment; it's a matter of getting the merchant account that the equipment uses. Sort of the difference between ordering checks and opening a checking account...

Yeah, this is one of the more "unusual" fetishes that people will admit to in the West (even thought it's been in Western Culture since Ancient Greece and Rome). Funny thing is that in Japan (and a chunk the far East), a large amount of their adult entertainment involves mind manipulation. If there was some way to get those processors, that would be cool (wishful thinking)  :D

I thank you let me in to the site and cashing my check.
I hope this will help you fight with the credit card Co.
any good news on the credit card front?

Yesterday Daphne have post Great news on the Credit card front.

read this posting from Daphne
http://mindcontrolcomics.com/forum/index.php?topic=87.0
We like to hear about the Credit Card and there solution

Soon be nice to read more about Green sign or Drain 2
add on about Stacked Deck with 4- 10 card girls