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Title: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: Daphne on May 29, 2017, 09:17:04 am
(http://cnt1.dvvent.com/dvv/open/mcc/sji/promos/sji-i622.jpg)


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: jmundt29 on May 29, 2017, 01:34:26 pm
Is this a shattered memory (or the shattering of an alteration to memory) again?  Very unsettling.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: laguna85 on May 29, 2017, 03:52:03 pm
May be we find out what behind that door for Caitlyn Hess ?
Or
Pearl "Miriam" Cantor  and Réka Kodály night ?

so WHO hairs and top head we see?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: laguna85 on May 30, 2017, 02:34:22 am
May be we find out what behind that door for Caitlyn Hess ?
Or
Pearl "Miriam" Cantor  and Réka Kodály night ?

so WHO hairs and top head we see?

I forgot if it Pearl "miriam Cantor and Réka Kodálybreast them it is  Weston Hartley head and hair.

add one broken Weston Sad :'(


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: jmundt29 on May 30, 2017, 06:38:31 am
So Laura and the Twins have a conjured figment or image while Pearl and Reka have a willing surrogate.

And the disturbing part of that image is the frame boundary.  Okay.

Weston may be out of his depth here but he's doing his best.

Now...uh, any thoughts on Pearl's last comment?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: Haight on May 30, 2017, 09:51:56 am
now...uh, any thoughts on Pearl's last comment?

I'm really, really hoping we get a PearlxJacqui scene at some point...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: Daphne on May 30, 2017, 09:53:40 am
I'm really, really hoping we get a PearlxJacqui scene at some point...

That... that would be incest! We can't have that on the site!

(checks site)

Uh, never mind.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: Haight on May 30, 2017, 10:03:41 am
I'm really, really hoping we get a PearlxJacqui scene at some point...

That... that would be incest! We can't have that on the site!

(checks site)

Uh, never mind.

Yup! And thanks for indulging us, heh...

Here's hoping Erin and Jacqui get to finishing that unfinished conversation at some point, too...


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: jmundt29 on May 30, 2017, 12:00:38 pm
This feels like it'd have the most necessary explorable consequences, though.  In other instances, programming a pair is a key part of an appearance.  Jacqui and Pearl have their own stories, interior lives, hopes, dreams, fantasies, scars, and skills that have all had a bearing on the story thus far and might continue to do so in the future.  This is in marked contrast to...for instance, Audiophilia.

But such a scene could definitely be interesting and hot.

I find that as Weston's presence as a possible threat to dynamics has receded, I like him more and can take his Colin Frizzle mouth a lot more easily.  I find myself hoping that he and Reka settle into an excellent and contented space in the SJI social dynamic.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: GodWilling on May 30, 2017, 01:23:48 pm
No disrespect or anything, but the only thing vaguely interesting to me about this whole storyline is the fact that it would appear to have originated entirely from Adrian.

Has Adrian met Weston yet? Maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but did he really put the idea into Réka and Miriam's minds that they should have a foursome with him and some other bloke he's never met?

We know he has no problem with having sex with Miriam now, but what exactly did he put into her head to make her not rule out having sex with Jacqui (if that is what she means here)? And why?

I suppose this may all be heading towards a twist of some kind - and perhaps it's fundamental to the plot. I know I've prattled on about Miriam being some kind of anti-Adrian; maybe this little group is becoming the "dark" harem. But I fear that, for me, if Weston's there it's always just going to be icky. And the incest stuff is just vanilla sex to me.

Another difficulty I have is that Miriam is becoming another Dani: I've no idea who she really is or ever really was. Which makes it hard to care what happens to her mc-wise.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: Haight on May 30, 2017, 03:48:54 pm
This feels like it'd have the most necessary explorable consequences, though.

Yes. I hope if that does happen it does get explored, however.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: mns_95125 on May 30, 2017, 04:50:05 pm
The simplest assumption consistent with Miriam's behavior is that Adrian programmed her to find incest hot.  Given that, she'd want to sleep with him again; the foursome may just be her way of making that happen in the context of her current relationship with Reka and Weston.  It also explains her openness to sleeping with Jacqui.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: Haight on May 30, 2017, 09:34:22 pm
The simplest assumption consistent with Miriam's behavior is that Adrian programmed her to find incest hot.  Given that, she'd want to sleep with him again; the foursome may just be her way of making that happen in the context of her current relationship with Reka and Weston.  It also explains her openness to sleeping with Jacqui.

I think her comments about it almost being hotter that Adrian's her brother predate Adrian using the Crystal on her; it was likely Erin and/or Dani.

Or she's just naturally a freak, in the best possible way.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: mns_95125 on May 31, 2017, 12:52:03 pm
The first time I recall Miriam saying that was when she and Reka got home from the theater, after her crystal session with Adrian.  Do you have an earlier citation?


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: GodWilling on May 31, 2017, 01:48:43 pm
Miriam awoke from "the dreamscape" with Adrian fucking her. She was relaxed about that - and that may have been down to whatever was done to her by Erin and Dani using the crystal within the dreamscape in order to wake her. I suspect they got her worked up a bit, made her see Adrian as her Master, and told her he was going to fuck her, which he then did in the real world, thus breaking down the barrier between the two realities and waking her up. I mean, that would be the obvious thing to try first.

I took her acceptance of the situation when she woke up to be a pragmatic response, given that she seemed to be particularly horny. I didn't really see it as evidence that her views on having sex with Adrian had actually changed. But maybe they had, in which case that would probably have to have been a part of the conditioning Erin and Dani gave her just prior to that. Either way, I'm pretty sure she didn't show any inclination towards incest before entering the dreamscape.

Given that we more or less know that Adrian did something to Raven when he used the crystal on Réka, Miriam, and her, it would figure that he did something to Réka and Miriam too. Plus he seems to be more than happy to indulge himself with Miriam now. So it makes sense that he'd want to loosen her moral shackles in a similar way.

But then... why have Adrian's moral shackles been loosened? It appears he has been "infected" with something akin to Jakob's mindset as a result of Miriam and Erin's experiences in the dreamscape. Perhaps they have all been similarly affected. All of the women appeared to be strangely OK with the situation when they woke up. All that tits and holes stuff presumably had some kind of residual effect, otherwise what was the point of it happening? Perhaps none of them would rule anything out right now; Miriam is just the only one with an obvious taboo to show scant regard for. After all, Réka seems entirely comfortable with the idea of reprising her night with Adrian and Miriam despite what they all know now. Perhaps what Adrian did with the crystal was less about changing how Réka and Miriam feel, and more about making them forget why they're feeling that way.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: mns_95125 on May 31, 2017, 09:18:04 pm
Either way, I'm pretty sure she didn't show any inclination towards incest before entering the dreamscape.

Her reaction in #427 when she learns that Adrian is her half-brother is shock, not arousal.  And she isn't the least bit interested when the topic of sleeping with him again is raised in #451.  The closest she comes to approval is in #439, when she tells him that "it was great".  But that's a long way from wanting to do it again *because* they're related.  We don't see any signs of Miriam having an incest fetish until after her time in the dreamscape and her post-dream crystal session with Adrian.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: jmundt29 on June 01, 2017, 09:14:10 am
I do think the programming has altered her, but I don't think it's made that into one of her fetishes.  It seems like she's been programmed to think that the experience was hot before and would be again and to discount the...impediments.  And I think this is also at play with her discussion of Jacqui.

Adrian seems to be loosed, but he doesn't seem to be acting like Jakadrian from the recent experiences.  Has Jakob become "Bad Goofy" on his shoulder here suggesting a bunch of ideas and he's screening them?

Also, we've seen significant attitude change like this from the Honywells recently and it seemed to be a combination of pleasure overload, (Pink Clouds + cure + pendant).  It could be that a part of Pearl's new groove is still residual from the spell cast to unlock part of her memories.


Title: Re: Saint James Infirmary 622: A World of Options
Post by: GodWilling on June 01, 2017, 10:26:30 am
We don't see any signs of Miriam having an incest fetish until after her time in the dreamscape and her post-dream crystal session with Adrian.

There is just the proviso that she did not freak out in the least when she woke up. And that could still mean Dani and/or Erin did it when they were "preparing" her for Adrian. But he was fine with it too.

I'm still inclined to think that Dani used the crystal on Erin on Einfríður night, and then they used it on Miriam. So I'm still not sure who's actually running things at the moment. I don't know why I think that, I just do.