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Well, this could be anybody in the three developing situations, but are due for Dani's work again?

I think there are four threads in play: the dreamscape, the theater, Adrian and Danielle.  Of those, the dreamscape is the one we haven't seen for the longest.

That looks like the pendant, and as far as we know Adrian hasn't got one of those. Réka seems the most likely to me, unless Dani's going to turn her attention to someone other than Hayley. And the dreamscape is where the heat is for me, so here's hoping.

Unfortunately, looking like the pendant doesn't narrow it down.  Dani has one, but the images in all affected eyes are of a crystal that looks like the pendant, and Pearl's memories looklike the pendant.  The crystal Memory Jakob uses looks uncut but the others are very close.

Given that Reka has just been pulled into the spell, there probably isn't much to be done on the theater thread right now.  The Danielle thread has received two of the last three updates, and three of the last five, so it's currently the 'most served' of the four.  That leaves the Adrian thread and the dreamscape thread as the most likely candidates, and the dreamscape thread seems more likely to feature the crystal.  So I guess that's my prediction.

I guess you could call this page finalizing this stage of Reka's recruitment.  After all, Erin did want Reka's number after her threesome with Pearl and Adrian.  I'm just hoping they make it home now and join the goings on in the front room.  I'm really not eager for Weston to get Superfecta lucky.

ETA--"Change the past."  What? ???  ??? Does this mean everyone in this memory is getting Dani treatment and getting at least one alternate version of a past life that they'll have to stitch to their present circumstances?

No Danielle in the dreamscape.  Does that mean that something different happens to people affected via the mind link and people drawn in by physical contact?

I think Adrian and Dani have experienced something of Erin's and Miriam's mindsets without actually being "there" with them.

The way I've been seeing it, what Erin experienced with the pendant was not the same as her seeing the pendant and being hypnotized; I think she's experiencing what happened to Miriam's mind when she saw the pendant. She has entered this "empty" mindset where it's right for every woman to be completely subservient to her master and to see herself as nothing but a toy for him to play with. But she isn't actually under that direct hypnotic control of the pendant, and there's no one there actively controlling her. So she's now recruiting, bringing other women into that same mindset, because she believes it's the right thing to do and there's nothing to stop her. And of course those women inevitably end up agreeing with her about that.

Adrian and Dani have picked up on her unrestrained state, and her ideas about what women are for, and they're responding accordingly, but each in their own way. It always comes back to some variation on Belinda: they want the same thing but they're not dreaming the same dream.

Obviously I haven't felt sure about that though. Perhaps Erin, Miriam, Raven, and Réka really have now all been programmed under the full hypnotic power of the pendant, without actually looking at the real thing. And perhaps the link with Adrian and Dani is more rigid.

I suspect Erin believes Adrian is her master, and it's pretty clear Dani believes he's hers too. I'd be interested to know who Miriam, Raven, and Réka think theirs is. If it's Adrian then what Erin and Dani are doing is really very similar.

And I'm inclined to think that what Hitomi was doing at the end of 581 was reminding Adrian that she isn't his slave... yet. I think maybe she was inviting him to do something about that, because that's what she was sent in to do. And if that's the case then it's possible she may just have caught him at a good time.

If Coates is that open-minded, more power to him.  But I somehow doubt that the plan was for Hitomi to scout and then get recruited into whatever the Cheer Squad thinks is happening in the SJI.  I got the sense that she was scouting to blow in Cait's ear and recruit her for Coates' group of playmates.  He and his wife seem to have a thing for cheerleaders.  Are they trying to collect the set?

The thing I don't understand about this as I said recently is this.

Everybody who's been recruited into the dreamscape thing has had a pause of confusion or possible resistance that gets overwhelmed.  Erin had it, Pearl had it, now Raven had it.  Even Dani had that "Tits and holes?"  What?? ???? moment before she got that grin and then started recruiting again.  Adrian had Insta-Change.  He's the only one.  And his personality just *click* Jak-Adrian.  Now, he doesn't have a focus, that we know of.  So, Hitomi will be pleasurably stimulated and confused, but not hypnotized.  Unless...remember that Hypnocock gag he used to handle Derek's programmed girls on The Night of the Watch?  Could there be a dark use of the same gag?  Might that be more than a joke?

Danielle repaired the Watch way back in #509.  Adrian knows about this as of #528.  It's unlikely Danielle has the repaired Watch with her since she didn't use it in #582.  That means the Watch is probably back at the Infirmary, and Adrian is probably smart enough to know to look in Danielle's room.  I think if he wants a focus to use on Hitomi he can get one easily.

In the story, "today" started with #457. #551 ended daytime activities with #552 starting tonights activities.

This has been the largest number of episodes in a single day since the story started at over 130. Yesterday was 101 episodes long. The day before was 109. The previous days were 80, 59, 56 and 34 episodes long.

I think this day won't finish for a while...

And unlike Dani, Adrian wasn't hit at a stopping point.  He's completely absorbed in activities downstairs and his stamina doesn't seem to be near an end.  So, if he's choosing not to relocate or pause, his options are quite limited.  It's also possible that he could have some of the mesmeric eye effect that Erin has, but...the first thing I thought of was that incident at Derek's.  It was the first time Adrian acted aggressively and embraced the wildness of his circumstances.  This could be a dark mirror of that situation.  In fact, Cait was involved that time too.

Sent in to do? I've read from the beginning twice recently. I don't see where anyone Sent Hitomi to do anything.

Also, tomorrow, how ever long in episodes that takes, will add Sue to the Harem or more directly involve Sue.

There was a conversation between Imani and Hitomi about this gathering and about Caitlun specifically.  We didn't get much of it, but it seems like a scouting trip to prep for recruiting Caitlyn.

The page is 537.


Hitomi spent last night blowing into Caitlyn's other orifices. But she has been asking Caitlyn to introduce her to Adrian since 433. And Caitlyn has been very relaxed about that, and very happy to do it. That, surely, is what all the blowing is about.

I'll agree, another subplot opened up at 537. That one is new compared to Hitomi and Caitlyn.

Hitomi gets overheated due to the "machine" in 144. She almost decides to jump Caitlyn 150. That, as near as I can tell, is 6 days ago.

On the following day, She dresses up and hooks up with Imani and Coates. (178, 179, 182 and 183)

Two days later, after what I would assume were multiple hook up sessions, she wakes up with Imani and Coates when Astrid walks in. (309) Astrid seems like the Dom of the group though it's hard to tell since that is the only time she is on stage. At the end of that day, Erin announces to Caitlyn that she's the "Cheer Leader" until another one is brought in. (416) My feeling is that bringing in another is a Erin/Caitlyn subplot too.

The following day, which is yesterday, things really heat up with Hitomi. She's in 430, 433, 436, 441, 442, 443, 446, 475 and 480. Cheer leader practice, the showers, and then in their room. In this last frame, she did say she learned all sorts of things from Coates and Imani. We assume that it has to do with sex. It could have to do with something else.

Today, they wake up in the morning and Hitomi wants to meet with Adrian. (This isn't the first time for that request.) (524, 525) Then we have the conversation with Imani at cheer leader practice. (537) Followed by "the date" with Adrian. (555, 561, 567, 578 and 581) When the story continues this week, we will probably see a new page from "the dates" point of view.

So we know she's been asking since after the two days with Imani and Coates but after she already had the hots for Caitlyn.

Daphne has been spinning this subplot for over 3 years, possibly over 4 years. This night might continue for 3-6 months. After all, we are into some pretty serious mind control stuff right now and things are still very much in play.

I think we have quite a way still to go in the overall story line since Sue hasn't been brought into the action yet. The next time we are likely to see her is at Adrian's audition. She's only been seen twice other than the page to identify people. (10, 487) She was around before Raven and Hitomi and some of the girls that are in the Harem. I think the plot is driving toward having her involved in some way also. I would think that will happen in the next few days in the story.  

I believe Sue also made a jokey appearance in 311.

It didn't seem all that important at the time, but we see Caitlyn showing off Adrian to the rest of the mantis squad in 79.

It's worth flagging up again that it was Erin (in conjunction with Adrian) who accidentally turned on (or up) the bell tower equipment. And it's Erin who has accidentally flipped Adrian tonight, just when Hitomi's there with him. That's pretty neat considering how many years it's taken us (and Hitomi) to travel from one point to the other.

It appeared that the bell tower equipment was instrumental in bringing Adrian's parents together. They were roommates, as the result of an apparent mix-up. I don't know whether it's significant that Caitlyn and Hitomi are also roommates. Hayley was the other identified victim of the bell tower. She felt lust for twin sister Amy, with whom she shares an apartment.

Raising another old hanging question, something key seems to happen with Hitomi - or more likely Caitlyn - in 436. I mean, a red circle around something often suggests it's important; and the red circle there takes up pretty much the whole page. Does wearing the mantis head instill a sense of trust between the squad members? (As well as making their breasts expand, obviously.) Is that what's going on there?


There isn't much to go on, but I don't think anything but sex had happened to Hitomi until Astrid came home. And it's a 'she' that Imani refers to in 446.

Days go Very very very slow in this comics, One day maybe up to fifty page
Mine thinking
point SJI- 006 to SJI- 078 is One day

I've done some work on this so I'll add the information here too. I'm not including any of the guest artist work since there were meant to be out of time sequence.

E001-E079. This was several weeks, only because we celebrated Christmas and New Years in real time with the comic.

For the remainder, as near as I can tell, each is a day. I consider days starting when they get up rather than midnight since they seem to be up past midnight on most nights. :)

E079-E112, E113-E144, E145-E168, E169-E227, E228-E307, E308-E416, E417-E517, E518-E585.

The current episode is 585 and we aren't nearly finished with this night yet. As you can see, the current day is at 68 pages and the longest day in terms of episodes was 109. That was two days ago. The shorted day, not counting the Night of the Watch, was 24 Episodes and that was 7 days ago.

For completeness sake, I have these journaled in 6 volumes at this point. Volume 1 has been put out by Daphne as the Night of the Watch.

Vol 2 - E079-E168 ( 3 days )
Vol 3 - E169-E307 ( 2 days )
Vol 4 - E308-E416 ( 1 Day )
Vol 5 - E417-E517 ( 1 Day )
Vol 6 - E518-E585+ ( 1 day)

I have the guest pages in their own volume.

I've done my own version of the timeline as well, and I divided it a little differently at a couple of margins, but there's generally room for debate.  I do think you missed a new day boundary at #145, though, so I have one more day in my timeline than you do in yours.

FWIW, based on Raven's going to the infirmary coupled with the calendar in #79, I think that the day from #113-144 is Thursday, January 12th.  That means the current day is Wednesday, January 18th.

There are some inconsistencies that I can't see how to resolve.  For example, in #62 Adrian says Zenon is on vacation for a week.  He's still on vacation in #79, but he's back in #97.  Amy's hairstyle has also changed between those two comics, which suggests they take place on different days.  But Jacqui is wearing the same clothing in #79, #81 and #103, which implies they take place on the same day.  The timeline settles down and gets generally more consistent by #113.

I agree. E144 is a 2 am based on the clock on the wall. E145 is definitely the next morning. I corrected the write up so that is is now in sync with yours.

It's my tradition to quote Daphne's catch-all answer: time in SJI is impressionistic.

Jacqui's speech in 81 implies that that is the day after the Night of the Watch. But I agree that that day has to be Wednesday 11 Jan, and I too have us currently in Wednesday 18 Jan - 10 days away from Jacqui and Dani at Sawyer's.

For what it's worth, I believe 1 to 5 are Adrian's first day in Kearsarge and 6 to 11 his second. (The conversation certainly implies that this is still very early days.) And I'd say this was not too long before Christmas.

Although Christmas and New Year (12 and 13) coincided with the real world, it makes sense to consider them to be more or less chronologically correct (certainly they usually come in that order). Adrian gave Dani her gift voucher for the session with Zenon as a Christmas present. That present is canon because the voucher is referenced on Amy's screen in 79. And according to the calendar her appointment was on Mon 2 January ("Le clinique! Merci, Adrian!").

Applying the usual rules, 14 is the start of the day that becomes the Night of the Watch, which has to be Monday 2 January. And certainly it kicks off with a (post-)seasonal remark, and they've been drinking more than usual.

As I say, things get problematic around 79-80. But really I think it's only Jacqui's reference to "last night" in 81 that doesn't reconcile. I've always seen 79 as covering an indeterminate number of days. It can't be Tuesday 3 Jan when Laura is inviting Raven to dinner on Thursday 12 Jan because she'd have said "next Thursday".

Zenon was in his office to give Dani her session on 2 Jan, but that must have been his last day before his vacation because Adrian gets an out-of-office response later that evening. (OK, it's unusual holiday planning to work 2 Jan and then go off for a week.) His return in 97 would be on Wednesday 11 Jan, which is about right. So I don't think there's a problem there, but my guess is that originally there was...

To be honest I've always suspected a flaw was spotted in the continuity regarding Zenon's vacation, and the calendar in 79 was adjusted to stick an extra week in before "Laura's" dinner date. Only the text in 81 messed that up. I'm probably wrong about that though.

It was early in the story line and things were coming out only once a week at that point. Certainly the art has changed and the consistency has improved from that first year. (Which would have only gotten us to about E052!)

The breakdown for me is to try to simplify reading and storing the episodes. By using a "day" format, and considering the number of title pages I have to work with, I was able to have every day, except the one I originally missed, have a title page and keep the number of pages in any volume from becoming very large.