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I sure hope this is a prelude to mother/daughter incest...

I'm a terrible person.

Is that Hayley with the look on her face?

I think you already got your wish in a roundabout sort of way.  In sober and dangerous moments, Jacqui sees Erin as a surrogate daughter.  She said so after that confrontation with Cherry.

One I think Halley is not there at SJI
Me is Amy face

Almost as good. I'll take it :-D

Jacqui's got some 'splainin' to do...

Art with the blush effects is super cute and sexy. Love the faces!

And BOOM goes the dynamite!  :o ;D ;D

Was Cantor representation for one of the bands at The Gig, then?  Hmm.

Pearl's trauma necessitated Cantor's involvement.  Is someone gonna call Pat and Miel?
If this keeps escalating?  What would their reaction be?  Clearly they left for a reason.  Very, very interesting.;D

Depending on timing it's possible that Patrick doesn't know about Pearl.  Ezra might honestly think he's the father.

Put Adrian, Jacqui and Pearl in bed together, add Erin for the redhead factor, and you'd have a late-stage Heinlein novel.  Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Depending on the timing, that is possible, but if the threat escalates significantly, might it be time to call on people who have power, know Rain, and have bumped into Jakob and his ego before?

As for Ezra's belief...yeah, that's also possible.  In fact, it's probable.  If Ezra knew that Adrian and Pearl were half-siblings, he had a golden opportunity to share that information with Adrian (for Pearl's sake) before he left earlier this evening.  I can't see him keeping that under his hat, knowing what he knows about Jakob and Pink Clouds and everything Pearl's already been through.  Of course, that's also an open question.  Wow.

Plus, we don't know much yet about how and why Jacqui got together with Ezra in the first place.  Once again, I must admit I'm thoroughly entertained by the story, loving both the story and the art, and twice as confused as I thought I was before this issue appeared.  It's a great feeling.  I'm already looking forward to Tuesday!! ;D

I really, really hope that Ezra knew that Pearl wasn't his biological daughter, otherwise that's pretty fucked up on Jacqui's part.

Do we even know if Adrian's parents are alive?

Even if Ezra knew Miriam wasn't his daughter (that's if she isn't his daughter), there's no reason for us to believe he'd know that Adrian shared the same father. Indeed, he knows that Jacqui is in a relationship with Adrian, so we might have expected that to throw up a bit more of a reaction if he had that sort of knowledge. But, yes, we can't assume Ezra is as innocent in all this as he seems.

Since I've already quoted Daphne from the thread for g23, I'll quote myself too:-

One thing to add that Ezra and Jacqui are about same age with Adrian parents,
Some where was post it By Daphne that Adrian and Miriam was same age and born and month a part.
yes Jacqui knows Adrian Parents

Huh?

I'll have to double check the date of The Gig.

Also complicating this is that Ezra hasn't aged as gracefully as Jacqui has.  He's aged well, but Jacqui is on an entirely different level.  Plus, the hints we've gotten suggest that Ezra was out of law school and hustling the circuit to develop a client base when he and Jacqui met.  Absent true prodigy status, the youngest he could have been then ('86, '87? ???) was 23.  So, he's at least 45 now.

Jacqui is 39 age one posting
The Age of Ezra and Adrian Parents (my memory Have not been post it) so that I say About same age

guest page 23 The Gig 2

Guest page 22 the Gig 1 July 3 1986

add and let say this group are in there 40-49 age

I think the implication of g22-23 is that Jacqui is a little younger than Patrick and Miel. I reckon they're about 46 and she's about 43. Maybe. It surely goes without saying that none of these people is ageing yet.

We've known since those guest pages that Jacqui knew Patrick and Miel. The new information here is that Jacqui knows who Adrian is and - as far as we know - has known all along.

Pages g22-23 took place around July 1986. Jakob was in town a few months later. And he had to leave town suddenly after a couple of semesters. That's probably not important.

 Quentin "Q-Box" Tarbox (#89) -- Age: 41

??? ??? ??? ??? ???
there is one person can tell up all there age ! (Daphne )

Pat and Miel are booking bands
Jacqui was with one of the bands set what they need set up and payment for the gig

I was making an assumption which might be correct or not.  Pat and Miel met Jacqui while they were booking bands and she was attached to one.  If Adrian and Pearl are half siblings, then both were conceived around this time, then Ezra, law degree in hand, probably entered Jacqui's life at about the same time.

I find the revelation about Pearl's biological father somewhat surprising because I remember Jacqui grousing about problems with Pearl and wishing (jokingly) that she'd had Brian Eno's love child instead.  I wrongly assumed that Pearl's existence tied her Ezra.  Obviously not.  Unless...did Ezra get around a lot more than we've seen back in the '80s?  But Adrian looks quite a bit like Pat...Ezra's candidacy as Adrian's biological father seems very unlikely.  Very interesting and confusing.  Lots to mull over during the holiday. ;D

For Adrian and Pearl to be half-siblings they'd need to share one parent.  There are four possible combinations of the candidate parents: Patrick/Miel, Patrick/Jacqui, Ezra/Miel and Ezra/Jacqui.  We've seen no evidence so far that Ezra has ever met Patrick or Miel, but we do have evidence that Jacqui has.  To my mind that means the most likely scenario is Patrick/Miel->Adrian, Patrick/Jacqui->Pearl, and Ezra is the cuckoo.

Which tells us nothing about their ages. But we know Patrick and Miel were at university three years earlier. And this in g22 suggests Jacqui is younger:

"She called today. She's just some kid."

"So were we."


It would be remarkable if Miriam were not Jacqui's daughter. And it would be odd for Jacqui to start talking about incest now if Adrian were her son. In any case, as I quoted above, Daphne confirmed that Miel is Adrian's mother. That was intended to confirm that she is his biological mother. But technically those are not the only possible combinations because the common father need not be Patrick or Ezra.

think out of the box
what if JAKOB KUPPLER is the father

One my posting was no for age that  answer that they have meet in the pass. 
and age may be 10 - 15 year apart (about same age)

I...don't think so.

If Jakob Kupler were Adrian's father, he'd have reached out to pluck an heir for his empire--maybe a more likeable face for the control of his harem.  At the very least Jakob would be tempted to use Adrian as a pawn in his struggle with his father and brother.  And Rain most definitely would not be working to help Adrian against Jakob.  The chronological math might add, but the rest doesn't seem to.???

However, you are right.  We have three possibilities

Possibility #1--Patrick Cavanaugh is the biological father of Adrian Cavanaugh and Pearl/Miriam Cantor.  This is the one we seem to be leaning toward.  How does this work?  Pat's son and heir to everything (including the legacy Rain is fighting to protect) is Adrian.  Pat and Miel had a lot of very gorgeous sexy fun with Jacqui during "The Gig" and Jacqui got pregnant with Pearl as a result.  So, Pat is Pearl's biological father.  How all that led to what looks like a shotgun marriage and short-lived union between roadie/manager/groupie Jacqui and ambitious entertainment lawyer Ezra is unclear.

Possibility #2--Ezra Cantor is the biological father of Pearl/Miriam Cantor and Adrian Cavanaugh.  Doesn't seem very likely, but let's look at it.  Pat and Miel have a committed relationship, but clearly they enjoy their fun.  It would be shortsighted to assume that they only played with young women.  Ezra is ambitious and smart, but he clearly liked fun as a young attorney hustling to build up his client roster.  Pat and Miel met Jacqui during the Gig and sparks flew.  It seems likely that Jacqui met Ezra during the same time period.  Perhaps he hit it off with the Cavanaughs as well.  And, over the course of several months, fortunate accidents happened.  There are problems with this theory of events.  I don't think Adrian would be heir to Rain's (or Rain's mother's) promise if he were Ezra's son.  But it's possible she is mistaken about his parentage, or has decided to make concessions.

Possibility #3--Some as yet undisclosed and very lucky gentleman is the biological father of both Adrian Cavanaugh and Pearl/Miriam Cantor after crossing paths with the Cavanaughs and Jacqui around the time of The Gig  This is also possible for similar reasons to the ones outlined in the other scenarios above.  However, as I said, I don't think our lucky donor could be a Kuppler brother.

The problem with Jakob being the father is that the mothers wouldn't have fallen pregnant until late 1988 or early 1989. (Leaving aside calculations, Daphne told us in the thread for 255 - "December 25 1988" - that Jacqui was 20 and that this was pre-Pearl.) Jakob was at Wilmot in late 1986 but was only there for a couple of semesters. Clearly there's some story to come around all this. I raised the possibility half tongue-in-cheek, but I don't rule it out.

Parentage is something of a theme amongst the SJI inhabitants.

so may got the answer:  parents: Patrick/Miel, Patrick/Jacqui is it

Yes, that does seem to be so. ;D  Although the '80s was a bit early for DNA testing.  Had the subject come up somehow during Pearl's childhood.  Illness?  Accident?  As always, there's more to the story, and it's very intriguing.  Plus, there's the added benefit of it being disclosed in very sexy situations. ;D ;)