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Title: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Daphne on May 08, 2017, 10:06:17 am
It's a race to the controls of the Rubies... will the ladies win, or will they become permanent mindless sex-toys? Or both?

(http://mindcontrolcomics.com/covers/beyond_rubies-i16-p00.jpg)


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Haight on May 08, 2017, 04:53:15 pm
Great news!


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Azure on May 10, 2017, 08:09:04 pm
Yes! I can't wait until it comes out, this is definitely my favorite comic on the site.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: gromit on May 15, 2017, 08:16:17 am
Given it's popularity, I wish issues were released more often, and other comics not as popular released less often. Is there any plans to develop other comics with the same Rubies theme?


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: jwik01 on May 15, 2017, 01:43:04 pm
Given it's popularity, I wish issues were released more often, and other comics not as popular released less often. Is there any plans to develop other comics with the same Rubies theme?

It's certainly a premise that could support a lot of variations on the theme, in one-offs and such.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Insaneplots on May 22, 2017, 09:05:20 am
Had the start of a story I was working on that fit the spinoff idea on bluemoon as a kind of co-op writing project. Though had renamed and expanded on the origins of the material. It was all, fan made head cannon.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: gromit on May 26, 2017, 05:32:49 pm
Just in time, my subscription was up today, gives me a lot of incentive to renew for another 3 months.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: lifmcs on June 07, 2017, 12:25:24 am
Hrm, was going to comment about Andrea being okay if the male version also causes ... sizable growth during reprogramming but yeah, probably not an issue based on that last panel. Georgina is pleased to make your acquaintance~

Also, the cavalry arrived to relieve Elaine's wrist just in time! Carpal tunnel is srs bsns. Safety first and all that when performing vigorous and extended manipulation.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Haight on June 07, 2017, 12:59:58 am
Well, that last panel certainly changes things. Dunno how I feel about it now...


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: hereno on June 07, 2017, 01:10:43 am
So, I found this issue pretty confusing. I had to go back and reread some earlier issues to figure out what was happening. Turns out there are a few key concepts that get tossed out in a single sentence in the middle of old issues, so what with the months-long delay between releases, they were pretty easy to miss. At least for me.

Just in case anybody else felt like I did, here’s how I see it:

Q) Why doesn’t Gabby just switch the rubies off?
A) It’s established in Issues 12 and 14 that, in order to go back to ‘normal,’ a Rubied person has to be reprogrammed as their old self. This takes time. Just switching the Ruby off would keep them in their current mental state, not revert them back to normal.

Q) But why does Gabby choose to reprogram these specific people?
A) In Issue 15, it’s mentioned that reprogramming everyone would take hours. Gabby’s response is that she’ll only reprogram a few people right away; that’s what we see in this issue.

Q) Why are some of the reprogrammed people horny and others violent?
A) I think Gabby’s main goal here is just to stall for time, namely, for those hours she needs to reprogram everybody. In the immediate-term, she just needs to neutralize threats. Threat 1 are the security ladies; she just makes them horny, so they want to fuck instead of arrest her. Threat 2 is Monsonis himself, who gets a similar treatment. Threat 3 are the other (male) Quine execs. It’s not exactly clear to me why these execs couldn’t be neutralized like Monsonis, but for some reason, Gabby reprograms their women instead. I’m unsure if the women just incapacitate the execs or kill them. Killing them would seem pretty extreme.

Q) What is Nick doing?
A) Nick I think is executing on a secret plan that the others don’t know about. It appears to involve him being in the security control room. I’m not sure what this plan is. As somebody who wants Nick to re-enslave everybody, this may be a step along that path. There is a reference in Issue 12 to “backups” of “several weeks of development work,” so that might play a role. If Nick isn’t planning on re-enslaving everyone, then I have no idea what he’s doing.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: gromit on June 07, 2017, 04:56:58 am

Q) Why doesn’t Gabby just switch the rubies off?
A) It’s established in Issues 12 and 14 that, in order to go back to ‘normal,’ a Rubied person has to be reprogrammed as their old self. This takes time. Just switching the Ruby off would keep them in their current mental state, not revert them back to normal.

I believe she does just switch them off for everyone, excluding the security guards, if the security guards were not used and abused by Monsonis, they may still carry out his orders, it's their job after all. Gabby had to ensure they still wouldn't obey Monsonis. So she put the security guards Rubies into sexual overdrive.

Q) But why does Gabby choose to reprogram these specific people?
A) In Issue 15, it’s mentioned that reprogramming everyone would take hours. Gabby’s response is that she’ll only reprogram a few people right away; that’s what we see in this issue.

She had hours, days even to write her programming, she just lacked the key to apply her changes. For example she didn't write the reprogramming for the security guards in two seconds, the programming was all ready to go she knew exactly what she wanted to do, once she had the authority to do so, she launched her program.  

Q) Why are some of the reprogrammed people horny and others violent?
A) I think Gabby’s main goal here is just to stall for time, namely, for those hours she needs to reprogram everybody. In the immediate-term, she just needs to neutralize threats. Threat 1 are the security ladies; she just makes them horny, so they want to fuck instead of arrest her. Threat 2 is Monsonis himself, who gets a similar treatment. Threat 3 are the other (male) Quine execs. It’s not exactly clear to me why these execs couldn’t be neutralized like Monsonis, but for some reason, Gabby reprograms their women instead. I’m unsure if the women just incapacitate the execs or kill them. Killing them would seem pretty extreme.

Gabby didn't program the women to be violent, she just turned off the Rubies control. The women needed no convincing to exact there revenge. They have been enduring abuse for days, weeks even, When they regained control over themselves, they knew what the men did to them and jumped at the chance to even the score. I'm not sure who the guy who got hit with the lamp is, but Oliver got sliced and diced like the carrots. The only thing I found puzzling was why didn't they remove there Ruby's first before dealing with Oliver. I can tell you if I had something on that was controlling me and I regained control, the first thing I do would be to remove it. They had no idea how long the Rubies were disabled for, it could have been a temporary glitch, 20 seconds later they could have been under it's spell again.      

Q) What is Nick doing?
A) Nick I think is executing on a secret plan that the others don’t know about. It appears to involve him being in the security control room. I’m not sure what this plan is. As somebody who wants Nick to re-enslave everybody, this may be a step along that path. There is a reference in Issue 12 to “backups” of “several weeks of development work,” so that might play a role. If Nick isn’t planning on re-enslaving everyone, then I have no idea what he’s doing.

Well he was distracting the security guards to give the others more time, when they find him they have to escort to security and assign someone to guard him, that the many less guards for other duties. I thought Nick had something up his sleeve, but he doesn't appear to be a programmer and is no where near a terminal to make changes. Gabby appears to be the one in control, so if your a horny slut, released from control or Gabby's new pet, she decides.  

One thing I think the author loves women with huge breasts. Gabby could have easily obtained the same results with the security guard women without applying the breast enhancement mod. Perhaps, Gabby feels all women should have huge breasts now.  


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Geo on June 07, 2017, 08:35:49 am
Off topic: I just heard about Wallace, Gromit. My condolences.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Daphne on June 07, 2017, 08:37:39 am
One thing I think the author loves women with huge breasts.

Here's a certain amount of truth to that.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: mr_ed968 on June 07, 2017, 09:43:42 am
Hello, Georgina! LOL


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: hereno on June 07, 2017, 10:02:29 am

I believe she does just switch them off for everyone,

Issue 14, Page 12, they talk about Andrea after she's been brain-blanked. "Can't you put her personality back?" Nick asks. "Later," Gabby says, "no time now." If switching a Ruby off would put her back to normal, then Gabby just would have said that (as in, if their plan is just to switch all the Rubies off, then Andrea's personality would come back once they switched off all the Rubies). Instead, Gabby insists that this is a process that will take time; Nick basically says this as well with the way he phrases the question.

Issue 15, Page 1, Gabby says that Marina has "the keys for all of the Rubies. And if we have the keys, we can reprogram them over the air." She's then told this could take hours. Simply switching the Rubies off shouldn't take hours: it's a computer program, an 'off' command takes no time at all. She's told there are only "hundreds" of active Rubies: sending an off command to several hundred units would take less than a second. Note, also, that she uses the word "reprogram" here, not "deactivate."

This tells me that the Rubies are completely overwriting the host consciousness, not merely channeling a set of behaviors. If you ripped a Ruby physically off someone, they would remain in their current state, not revert back to normal.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: gromit on June 07, 2017, 10:59:07 am
If you ripped a Ruby physically off someone, they would remain in their current state, not revert back to normal.

There a certain amount of truth to this, after all when Gabby tells Laura she thinks the body changes she's undergone are permanent. However I still think the Women retain a certain amount of self motivation.  If it was true that the Rubies overwrites a host personality, when the ruby's were switches "off", Beverly and Oliver's Wife would still be perfectly happy / willing to be Oliver's sex slaves, but when they exact there revenge on him, it tells me the Rubies control is not complete. After all Gabby had no knowledge what transpired between Oliver and Beverly, she wouldn't be able to program the Rubies to exact revenge because she didn't know anything about what transpired to give those kind of instructions. Unless it was a blanket order, go kill any man that that was having sex with you.   


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: hereno on June 07, 2017, 12:29:33 pm
Unless it was a blanket order, go kill any man that that was having sex with you.   

I think it was a blanket order to the women of Quine execs. If you look closely, when that one (I don't know her name) is about to smash her man with a clock, her Ruby is glowing, not off. Again I'm not sure if they just incapacitate the men, or actually kill them. Killing just strikes me as being pretty extreme -- yes, even considering everything the men have done.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: orifalcon on June 07, 2017, 01:39:32 pm
Wow, dropping TG into the finale of one of the sites most popular, long running comics.  That's a move that takes some balls.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: GodWilling on June 07, 2017, 03:02:11 pm
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Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Haight on June 07, 2017, 03:51:50 pm
Wow, dropping TG into the finale of one of the sights most popular, long running comics.  That's a move that takes some balls.

Yeah. Can't say I'm a fan.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: hereno on June 07, 2017, 04:01:10 pm
That's a move that takes some balls.

Or takes away some balls? ZING!

Not a TG fan myself, but I can see how it's Monsonis "getting what he deserves."


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: snivgrits on June 07, 2017, 04:05:36 pm
The story here has been interesting, but I confess this isn't my favorite series. The massive breast enlargement spoils the stroke for me. I like breasts generous sized, but these seem grotesques that would require a walker or a gurney for the women to get around.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: gromit on June 07, 2017, 05:36:30 pm
Notice how long Monsonis nails are in the last frame? They were not long before. I have theories what this signifies.

The massive breast enlargement spoils the stroke for me. I like breasts generous sized, but these seem grotesques that would require a walker or a gurney for the women to get around.

I'll have to agree, while some nice D cups are always a pleasure, There's a real women in the Guinness World Records that has Julie Ruby sized breasts and they weigh in at 65 pounds. Not attractive at all, bigger is not always better. The security guard dressed in green in the first panel has the prefect sized tits in my opinion.   


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: HarryManBack on June 07, 2017, 07:31:46 pm
Wow, dropping TG into the finale of one of the sites most popular, long running comics.  That's a move that takes some balls.

*ovaries

If you only knew how many TG commission requests I get for BR...


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Geo on June 07, 2017, 09:16:28 pm
That's a move that takes some balls.
I salute you fellow forumite! Odds are very good that balls were indeed taken.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Haight on June 07, 2017, 11:16:50 pm
Not a TG fan myself, but I can see how it's Monsonis "getting what he deserves."

Eh. Don't really see the state of being female as being "punishment."

If you only knew how many TG commission requests I get for BR...

Quote a bit, I'd imagine. It's popular among the kind of people who commission erotica on the internet. Somehow I missed that train.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: hereno on June 07, 2017, 11:54:06 pm
Not a TG fan myself, but I can see how it's Monsonis "getting what he deserves."

Eh. Don't really see the state of being female as being "punishment."

He does.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Haight on June 08, 2017, 01:45:16 am
He does.

Yeah, but I find it kind of detestable for the same reason I don't like "interracial" porn.


Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: GodWilling on June 09, 2017, 01:36:16 am
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Title: Re: Beyond Rubies #16
Post by: Greyman on June 10, 2017, 10:41:42 pm
Not a TG fan myself, but I can see how it's Monsonis "getting what he deserves."
Eh. Don't really see the state of being female as being "punishment."
On its own, no, but there is a certain amount of ironic justice being applied here.